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Rivets will make em look much less plain once you paint the supports.

dsteingass wrote:Under his beard is an augmetic fist!

With Rivets...

You might consider making some panels to cast and reproduce to make your life a little easier. (detail once... Cast a crapload... add minor detail tweaks such as posters, bullet hits, etc done... )

I made a few simple panels for building up some very basic ruins (with Hirstarts tile floors) Here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/391231.page

BTW Legos make for excellent mold boxes...

The package will be beginning its voyage later today...

Rogue Wolves wrote:D: you got that wall mold!!! you lucky @#$!! wish i had those, i have some of hirst arts molds but obviously not the wall one

That's because I MADE the wall one from scratch. its not Hirst arts. The Tiles are, but not the walls, doors, spacer/joiner bar or window inserts.

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dsteingass wrote:Remember.
Anything PVA can do....
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...Weldbond can do better!
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Yeah but Elmers is soo much cheaper by volume... (and its plenty strong for gamer use once fully cured) but stronger is better...

dsteingass wrote:
As much as we all know I would probably attempt such nonsensical huge projects, the wall-o-tenements idea seems most usable as open-backed,table edge terrain peices, accessible from the outside table edge That means not too tall so you can lean over them and play.


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And I DO love the idea of Fifth Element endless skyscrapers,Marty! Especiallly built in historical fashion!


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All locked up, good and square.


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Clearly, I will be needing that handy mold sooner rather than later
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Not a worry.. Takes around 24hrs for the RTV silicone to fully cure. get me the masters to make into molds... Heh.

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dsteingass wrote:Hahaha... I may have been using the wrong tool. This is a "detail" airbrush
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I thik mine is just a "general Purpose" tool.
And DAMN that needle is small .3 mm !!
You could seriously paint miniatures with a dot that small!


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I can now add HALF of the "forbidden art" to my portfolio now, CASTING!
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Galorn's wall cast (nice rivets dood! )


Here was my foamcore master (20mm building facade)


And here is the casting
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My uncle made this mold for me, he uses cheap DIY silicone rubber from a caulking tube, so that is probably why some of the brickwok detail has been lost, but it is my first creation ever reproduced, so I'm pretty fond of it

It'll be perfect for Stalingrad ruins

If you would like I can make a mold for the stalingrad facade as well.

Yep thats a catchy one.

Heres one thats just neat (5 people one guitar.)

dsteingass wrote:HAHA, yep. That is her and she is definitely Golden!
She reads Black Library novels faster than anyone in the world, of course Lego, and plays MMOs (SW:TOR atm) I have started building her a Dwarf Army too, but she is nervous (but wanting) to learn how to paint.

This was the first GW and the first Lego stores in the entire State of Indiana- Still about 1.5 hour drive away from home tho. The Lego store is amazing Vik! Not only do they have all the exclusive sets, The entire back wall is the pick-a-brick bins, you buy a container and fill it up with whatever fits! $8 for a small, $14 for a large!

What server? I'm on "the fatman" myself. I'm "Sith" faction.

dsteingass wrote:It is nice aint it!

Anyways, onto business.

Gonna use some of this new stuff for Galorn's floor tiles, PVC foam


I can only describe it as being a fluffy, marshmallow-ish, light, but sturdy plastic.

It cuts easy enough



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cut, repeat, repeat....


Dry fitting


And repeat...


I must go to bed now, let them dry, or I will dick with it some more and mess it up.

:O AWESOME. That's the same material I used to make the masters for the wall sections BTB.

dsteingass wrote:Thanks man! GMTA I told you this will be cool.

I didnt feel like going to bed then, so I made the double-wide and the maximum size, quad-tile. (That is your spec. yes?)

They fit well IMHO.

Perfect.

They Look AMAZING. They should mold/cast up no problem too the only one Im a little worried about is the drain. It should be fine tho, especially as it looks like you "sealed" it with liquid GS.

Nice.


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Viktor von Domm wrote:very, very good work mate... that will be a new area...fisrt there was hirst arts... now will be daves munda casts...if you stay around 15- 20 bucks ...then you will be a rich man!!!

Hmm not a bad idea... I'd be up for it. Dave you?

dsteingass wrote:HAHAHA THanks Vik! But I'm just the design studio, Galorn is the production manager. I'm anxious to get his mold in the mail and cast some up! He builds them with the best stuff there is for mold-making.


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FRESH Rivets....

Nice.

dsteingass wrote:Of course! Can you make that many molds?

Easily.

dsteingass wrote:The idea is they are generic enough of multiple applications

Yep.

MauS wrote:Say, would Galorn be at all interested in a couple of torsos to make molds of? I'm thinking beerbelly amongst others, but I can easily build a few more. Maybe even produce a kind of Munda goodies set? Some torsos, weapons, terrain...

Anyways, looking good on the flooring there Dave!

I think that Patriots flag would look good on a SM shoulderpad... Patriots chapter anyone

Interested yes... I'd give it a shot making the torso mold.


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mxwllmdr wrote:I know it's your thread, Dave, but seriously? The Giants? Really?



Wow. I must do this at the risk of being unfriended on the Dakka's:

Ironically I have a friend near by named "Dave" and also from NJ, who is a rabid Giants fan.

Viktor von Domm wrote:today i had some chocolate mold (don´t laugh) in my hands... they had a very cobblestone feel to them... if i am not mistaken then this mold making process is in essence like making new molds for "chocolate bars"...or am i wrong here?

pretty much yep.

http://warfrog.blogspot.com/2011/11/two-part-mold-making-tutorial-resin.html Link to the relevant tutorial.

Thats actually pretty close to what I do (Legos, and all)

dsteingass wrote:
.....The sounds of tumblerivets in the wind

That explains the PM... Heh

MauS wrote:That desk is WAAAAAAYYYYYY too clean!!!

I'm so jealous of that...

Viktor von Domm wrote:ohoh... a clean desk...that can only show us one meaning.... a new project is emerging.... wonder what that might be...

It probably involves rivets riveting rivets made of rivets... Or more burly junglemen.

dsteingass wrote:Good stuff hmel! I've seen a lot of those already. As for the pipes, they are some great ideas, and they are flat on the bottom, that means a single-sided mold was used.
However, it IS already done. Do I want to redo something that is already commercially available?

Maus- good stuff, especially the riveted beams- could match the buttresses architecturally??

those pipes are Hirst arts castings (I have the mold) one of the problems I've encountered with them is unless they're resin cast I guess the flat "support beam" portion and the pipe flanges chip and or trap bubbles like a bastard.

dsteingass wrote:Are you allowed to sell Hirst casts as your own like the ebay person is?

If you have a license to do so from Bruce Hirst yes. Or you sell less than 1000$ a year, and do not represent yourself to be a biz.

Quoted from the Ebay listing
"We are officially licensed by Hirst Arts Fantasy Architecture"

"All images are property of Showcase Terrain or used with permission"

Hmelrose wrote:

dsteingass wrote:Bah, that's too unoriginal for my personal tastes

Haha, I tried!

Are we talking just imperial city / necromunda style terrain? You could do Chapter specific wall tiles which could double as vehicle upgrade/symbol pieces.

I suggest you start with Space wolves and make me a space wolf terrain piece, i.e. The Fang or Some Wolf Icon walls, this would be easy to do for each of the Chapters.

Or if you're just doing variations on floor tiles, how about some unique bases? You could do SW bases with raised wolf heads on them..lol, then I could paint it and dust it with snow after I mount the mini.

Wings, unique backpacks, weapons, wheels to turn a rhino into a wheeled vehicle, ones that would fit into the same area the tracks do, but don't raise the profile of the rhino too much. New turret systems or pillar mounts for unused turrets similar to the imperial guard heavy bolter turret or the aegis defense system.

But seriously. We're talking buildings, cross braces, pillars/supports, ladders, a slide, girders, beams, supports, a trash pile, a loot pile...etc..

Lots to think about!

The chapter specific iconography would be a MAJOR no no as a commercial enterprise (at least until we see how the GW lawsuit Vs Chapterhouse shakes out). Sundry objective markers tho... possible. Structures similar to what elevated highways are held up by (jersey barriers, and suchlike) would also be a possibility.

mxwllmdr wrote:I gotta say, though, I buy from Evergreen Scale Models and i don't find the economy packs of their tubing and rod and Ibeams to be that expensive. check out the link.


I-Beams and H-beams


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Although, I find the idea of modular terrain to be very intriguingly fun and cool. Like Space hulk on a different scale and with a different atmosphere......

sure is

dsteingass wrote:Galorn, and thanks man!

Eh must have missed something... You're welcome.

Rogue Wolves wrote:hehe.. he was thanking me for the comment, and reminding me of your name!

See I knew I had missed something. He is still welcome (for helping me out by making a master that I can use in commercial endeavors) and you are awesome for pointing out what I missed. So Thanks. (I'm serious BTW not sarcastic, at least not in this comment anyway)

Rogue Wolves wrote:dont worry, the way it is typed it dosent apear to be

Good. I'm somewhat over tired... (been up since 8:00 am.. crap its now 12:51 am here time to go thud)

dsteingass wrote:I think it would be much easier to just make a whole new wall master than to get casted window inserts to fit properly. It would probably take the same amount of RTV to make the mold for the inserts as it would to just mold a new wall master. I dunno. Galorn? your opinion please?

Similar amount of RTV sillicone yes.
But its also easier to make a single wall blank (like I did) and then make inserts that fit any window holes.
That's what I did for my walls anyway, and yeah getting the initial window spaces, and the inserts to be interchangeable was a little tricky. It helped that I constructed the master for my walls out of strips of a known width arranged vertically, squared to the top and bottom, with a known distance between the top and bottom that formed the window void. I then used Bondo to gap fill then I sanded everything flat. (the "pour seam" in the final panel is due to me clutzing and cracking the master and not taking the time to redo the whole process, including detailing. I was able to glue the sections back together relatively closely, but not perfectly (as you can see in the final mold) it works for that particular panel, and as such falls into the "happy accident" area of model making. the adhesive I used was Zapagap brand Cyanoacrylic (super glue) glue

mxwllmdr wrote:Yep, looking forward to getting into the molding thing. So many ideas...... So little time......


Can't wait to see what you come up with...

I'll do the same deal I did with stien... Make me some tiles/sections, I'll mold em, and send you a Mold of em (if they mold up OK) If you give me the ok to sell the mold I'll split my profits with you 50/50


The masters arrived this morning, I'll be creating the mold in a few moments actually.

mxwllmdr wrote:Dude, Seriously? Bet, I will get some of the bits I have in mind going IRL. Rules are stay away from IP, right?

yep. as much as possible. "generic" things are ok (skulls being skulls, etc)


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dsteingass wrote:Awesome! Can you please take a WIP shot or two?

absolutely.


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AS requested a WIP of the panels Dsteingrass sent me...

Molds have cured. a few minor issues (bleed under in a few spots, adhesive failure upon demolding.) all relatively easily corrected. (re-glue parts that popped off when I extracted the mold, trim off bleed under then seal the master)

here are the freshly decanted molds.



Closeup of some bleed under...


On the whole very satisfactory first pour. I'll tweak a few things then make another pour tomorrow.

dsteingass wrote:Galorn the molds are looking awesome! Do you think the blank space next to the triangle piece can have another triangle piece there in the final mold? It looks to me that the bleed under the vent piece might just be able to be cleaned up with a knife? I did that with the wall mold you sent me, and the riveted window sills casted up nicely.

MAx, that's unpossible where my painting bench is unfortunately, just enough room under there for my legs/ass and the trash can for spraying cleaner, not a floor tripod, and not enough room on the bench for a tabletop tripod. I was rather impressed that I got those shots as-it-is

That would require a little jiggering as I currently don't have a second piece to glue into the master.... I intend to add another triange in if it casts well enough.

mxwllmdr wrote:I am not the droid you are looking for, Dave......


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And, I can't allow that, Dave.....


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Name that movie quote....

First one Starwars (new Hope)

Second one... 2001 a Space Odyssey

mxwllmdr wrote:YEAH! GALORN WINS TODAYS BOOBIE PRIZE:

lol