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LIST AMENDED

Hey DakkaNuts, me and a friend are preparing for our doubles tournament early next year, and thought it would be best if we actually decided to come up with a list. We're both playing Chaos, and the only rule is that you have your own force organisation chart and have to have 1 HQ and 2 troops each. We made this list, for me and him , and would like some C&C:

Me:

Daemon Prince
- Wings
-Mark of Slaanesh
135 points


CSM - 10 man Squad
-Meltagun
-Meltagun
-Rhino
205


CSM - 10 man Squad
-Meltagun
-Meltagun
-Rhino
205

Plague Marines - 8 man
-Champion
-Meltagun
-Meltagun
-Combi Melta
205





Ally:

Chaos Lord
Terminator Armour
Two Lightning Claws
130

CSM - 5 man
-Meltagun
-Rhino
120

CSM - 5 man
-Meltagun
-Rhino
120

Land Raider
220

Chaos Terminators - 4
4 pairs of lightning claws
160

750


Not sure about running the land raider for the transportation of lord and terminators- thinking about maybe the land raider out, putting icons on CSM squads in rhinos and letting lord and terminators teleport onto them; or scraping that part altogether, and instead of land raider assault unit , using chosen or a god specific unit... any ideas?



C&C Welcome ; do you think this is a good list?

One thing that strikes me straight away about your list is the number of points that you've sunk into Land Raiders. You have 450 points right there, that's most of your allowance, and if you look at a Land Raider, is it really worth it considering that it is just a gun boat the way that you're using it. I get that at AV14 there isn't going to be much that can penetrate it, but even at 750pts there's stilll plenty out there that can do damage, Melta Guns, Lance weapons and possible the odd Vendetta here and there. If I were you I'd drop the Land Raiders, give your Marines Rhino's and bulk out the squads, also filling in a slot with Plague Marines for objective camping maybe, as it seems that neither of your armies have something that you plan on using to sit on things with.

I'm going to shift to your friend's list now. Mark of Khorne, meh, not the best mark available methinks. Greater Daemon, Greater meh methinks.

These are the main points but once you have made amendments then maybe we can start working on it further.

Hope this helps!

Hi. This is one crazy looking army.

For a start, you don't have a champion to summon the greater daemon. The CSM squad with the icon of slaanesh is 5 points under, and I would question the need or use for the upgrade in the first place.

CSM land raiders are not that great, so to have 2 without dedicated combat units is a bit mad. For some decent anti-mech, go for autocannon havocs - at 1500 they will be able to deal with infantry, transports and monstrous creatures. Defilers are good, Daemon princes are still good, mark of khorne is a bit meh but fair enough. If your gonna go anti-infantry on the predator put a havoc launcher on it, its twin linked S5 blast, so with 2 autocannon and 6 heavy bolter shots it should massacre light infantry

If you are going to do Land Raiders, you should both do them. You should also both fit in the extra 20 points per to make them demonically possessed. Somehow, I'd have to run the numbers though

Thats pure target saturation- 4 land raiders all immune to shaken and stunned. Of course if you play against a melta spam or dark light spam you'll be in trouble, but against most armies you should just be able to walk through.

That of course is a very "all your eggs in one basket" type of strategy, but 8 tl las cannons, and 4 tl heavy bolters isn't bad fire power- especially considering the melta guns inside the raiders.

Of course, if you're not going to go for an LOL LAND RAIDERS LOL build, its probably not worth going for any of the big boys for precisely the same reasons Rampage said.

We've amended the list, so C&C on the new one welcome also, the majority of the players in the tournament are anti infantry, so anti mech is a good shout, especially
against the damned guard players who still use leafblower tactics.

Your not gaining a thing by having CSM over PMs... infact your losing Fearless. Those CSMs outside of a rhino are 3 kills away from running on a Ld 6 morale check. And when that Rhino does blow up, there is a chance 3 of the 10 will die. Anything in that Dex that is not fearless or a MC/vehicle is a liability on the battlefield.

Why does your DP not have Warptime on it?

Drop the Champ on the PMs, use the points for a combi-meltas for the Rhinos.

If you need points for further equipment, drop your PMs to 7 man squads or even 6 man squads. Then you can consider Champs with fists and combi-meltas. I would consider plasma guns, but I can understand the use of meltas. But if you have enough points saved up, instead of a champ with gear, have you considered 130pts for a base Pred with LC sponsons?

This gives your half of the list some valuable long range AT fire your lacking.

Don't be shocked if your buddie's LR and Terminators die right away and you have to carry the fight.