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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 15:25:20
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
A fortified bunker deep in the Andes
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If Old Zogwort tries to turn the leader of a command squad into a squig, can his bodyguard transform instead? If not, will the bodyguard still sacrifice himself to save his new squig leader?
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Actual conversation from my stats class-
Student: Why is the denominator on that equation n-1?
Prof: n is very good, but n-1 is also very good.
GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 15:26:22
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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The bodyguard can only take wounds off of a commander, so no, this wouldn't work, as the spell doesn't cause a wound.
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Q: How many of a specific demographic group are required to carry out a simple task?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 15:52:10
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
A fortified bunker deep in the Andes
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Fearspect wrote:The bodyguard can only take wounds off of a commander, so no, this wouldn't work, as the spell doesn't cause a wound.
What about the second question?
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Actual conversation from my stats class-
Student: Why is the denominator on that equation n-1?
Prof: n is very good, but n-1 is also very good.
GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 15:59:20
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Lord of the Fleet
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No, your questions are the same. The bodyguard cannot become, or sacrifice himself to become a Squig, as Look Out, Arghh only works when the Commander suffers wounds. Zogwort's Curse does not cause wounds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:01:50
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
A fortified bunker deep in the Andes
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My second question pertains to after the curse has resolved. The commander is now a squig, and he has been shot with a conventional weapon. Does the bodyguard still recognize him as his superior officer and block the shot, or does replacing the model break the effect?
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Actual conversation from my stats class-
Student: Why is the denominator on that equation n-1?
Prof: n is very good, but n-1 is also very good.
GENERATION 5: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:12:23
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Lord of the Fleet
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I would say no, as he is completly replaced by a Squid, he is no longer a Company Commander. If it was just a stat-line change then I'd be inclined to say yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:12:30
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, as he is now a Squig, not an officer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:14:24
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Fresh-Faced New User
Dallas, TX
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Ok, follow up to this. As the Commander is now a squig, can it contest objectives (in a squigly fashion?)
I swear i read a batrep where this happened...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:22:47
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
Tucson, Arizona
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The squig belongs to the ork player and it can contest but not hold an objective because it is not a troop choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:23:06
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yes, as it is a unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 16:44:41
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Proud Phantom Titan
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....????? Well since he can only turn an IC into a Squig he can't target any of the models in the IG command squad so this shouldn't come up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 17:09:15
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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y0disisray wrote:The squig belongs to the ork player and it can contest but not hold an objective because it is not a troop choice. the squig is under control of the opposing player, the ork player is simply required to supply the model. the squig is an independent sharacter that counts as infantry. so you can contest with your squig and make the opponent wish he'd fried the squig add as said above by Tri, the IC being squigged has to ba an IC otherwise zogworth can't curse it, so if the leader of a command squad is not an IC then it couldnt be squiggified in the first place
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 17:15:39
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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And the power is null in void if the ork player does not provide the opponent with a suitable squig model to use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 18:58:30
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I've actually had Zogwort killed by a ghazgkull-squig in an ork V ork bash.
He zogged Ghazzy, because the big guy was getting waay too close..
Ghaz then charged and ate him (Zog was on one wound by that time )
It was epic
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 19:38:18
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Tri wrote:....????? Well since he can only turn an IC into a Squig he can't target any of the models in the IG command squad so this shouldn't come up.
This is 100% correct.
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Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/28 23:59:12
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Ascalam wrote:I've actually had Zogwort killed by a ghazgkull-squig in an ork V ork bash.
He zogged Ghazzy, because the big guy was getting waay too close..
Ghaz then charged and ate him (Zog was on one wound by that time )
It was epic 
That's why I play orks! Ghazzy inflused squiggy! I bet he could take down a Gargantuan Squig!
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Live Ork, Be Ork. or D'Ork!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 00:06:15
Subject: Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I'm making a diorama to commemorate the occasion.
With a removable zog and Ghaz (and squig) of course..
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 20:53:24
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Been Around the Block
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If, for some reason, the bodyguard could take a wound for the squig, why would you do that anyway? Just let the squig die.
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Orkses is never defeated in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 21:26:55
Subject: Re:Zogwort's curse vs. Look out... AAArgh!
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Darkninja107 wrote:If, for some reason, the bodyguard could take a wound for the squig, why would you do that anyway? Just let the squig die.
Well if it was possible then the squig would be and IC so also a kill point. Might be worth saving him in KP missions but that's beside the point; He is not an IC and it is not a wound so nether rule would work.
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