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Hey everyone! I havent posted anything in awhile and that's because I live in a very rural area these days, but who cares! haha
Anyways, I have been working on a Salamanders army for a little over a year now, starting with the equivalent of the AoBR contents and moving up to a total of 2000pts fully painted.
Ive been fighting my friends Orks non-stop for the course of that time as well, and I even matched the basing style he used on his Orks (as he started them before I started my marines) to get an Armageddon kinda thing going. So my dilemma is that I seem to be having a hard time dealing with his Trukk of Warboss, Nobs with Choppas/Sluggas, Big Choppas and Klaws, and Painboy. "Shoot it" hasnt really been an option, unfortunately, and I dont have a lot of cash to dump on new models. Here's what I currently have and am working on.

HQ:
Vulkan He'stan
Captain w/Power Weapon (or Relic Blade) and Bolter
Captain w/Terminator Armor and Twin Lightning Claws
Chaplain w/Power Fist
Librarian w/Plasma Pistol

Elites:
Dreadnought w/Multi-melta
x6 Terminators, x1 Heavy Flamer in Land Raider Crusader
x6 Sternguard w/ x2 Combi-Meltas, Power Fist in Razorback w/Twin Lascannon.

Troops:
x3 Ten man Tactical Squads (one with Flamer/Multi-melta, one with Flamer/Missle Launcher and one with Meltagun/Missle Launcher)
x3 Rhinos

Fast Attack:
Land Speeder w/ Multi-melta

Heavy Support:
Thunderfire Cannon
Predator Destructor

Those are all fully painted and ready to go models. In the works I have a six man Assault Squad w/ Flamer, Power Fist/Storm Shield, another 10 man Tactical w/ Flamer/Multi-melta in Rhino and a Ven. Dread w/ Plasma Cannon/DCCW-Heavy Flamer.

Any ideas?
Thanks!
T-

How exactly do you have five HQ units?

I suppose I went to the store and bought them like most people?

I didnt say I used all 5 at the same time, just that I have them and that they are fully painted.

Hope this helped...heh..

T-

Well what point level are you aiming for? A 2000pts force, or a 1500pts force to allow for some model flexibility?

I dont really have a points total in mind, but Im pretty sure Ill have to deal with this problem at any level 1500pts and up...
I can put a lot of shooting on the table, and it's great for thinning the Mobs, but it doesnt really seem to do the trick against the Warboss + friends..


Thanks!
T-

While it's not ideal, and you'll need to pick up another Predator, something like this should work well enough for you.

Vulkan - 190

Sternguard (5), 3 x Combi-Melta, 2 x Combi-Flamer, Razorback with TL-Lascannons - 210
Dreadnought, Heavy Flamer - 115
Dreadnought, Heavy Flamer - 115

Tactical Squad (10), Flamer, Missile Launcher, Rhino - 205
Tactical Squad (10), Flamer, Missile Launcher, Rhino - 205
Tactical Squad (10), Flamer, Missile Launcher, Rhino - 205

Predator, Lascannon Sponsons - 120
Predator, Lascannon Sponsons - 120
Total: 1500

The best solution would be to buy a box of Assault Terminators. TH/SS will pulp the nobs. If you can't spend any money I would try softening the unit up with Sternguard, a Tac squad, and Terminators shooting then try assaulting with the termies.

I have had TH/SS Terminators on my mind for sometime. Always figured they'd be a great counter attack unit that would sorta hang back and then jump forward, possibly out of a Land Raider (or Crusader, or Redeemer, though Im not 100% sold on whether a Redeemer is worth using or not) add the tanks shooting to the hammers crushing should do some damage.

IF the Assault Terminators became an option, how many would you recommend?

Thanks!
T-

If you want to use Vulkan then TH/SS is the way to go for the nobs. If not go for Telion. With what you already own take out their trukk early and make them foot slog and do not worry too much as they cost a bomb and need to get into cc. You should try getting your current termies in cc with them, the 10/15 powerfist attacks will counter the painboy and the klaws are the only thing you will have to worry about.

I would go for:

HQ
Captain w/Terminator Armor and Twin Lightning Claws

Elites:
Dreadnought w/Multi-melta
x6 Terminators, x1 Heavy Flamer in Land Raider Crusader
x6 Sternguard w/ x2 Combi-Meltas, Power Fist in rhino

Troops:
10 flamer/Missle Launcher in rhino
10 Meltagun/Missle Launcher in rhino
5 in Razorback w/Twin Lascannon.

Fast Attack:
Land Speeder w/ Multi-melta

Heavy Support:
Thunderfire Cannon
Predator Destructor

You have not the models to go for a Vulkan list and the sternguard work well in a rhino.

Trogdor the Burninator wrote:I have had TH/SS Terminators on my mind for sometime. Always figured they'd be a great counter attack unit that would sorta hang back and then jump forward, possibly out of a Land Raider (or Crusader, or Redeemer, though Im not 100% sold on whether a Redeemer is worth using or not) add the tanks shooting to the hammers crushing should do some damage.

IF the Assault Terminators became an option, how many would you recommend?

Thanks!
T-

When I run Salamanders I use 10-20 on foot or 10 on foot and 5 in a LR. In your case though 5 on foot as a counter to the nobs should do it, 10 would of course be best but not entirely necessary in these circumstances.

Hey,
I just wanted to thank everyone for their replies!
I think I will shoot for the Assault Terminators w/ TH/SS's, I just need some cash haha

Thanks again!
T-