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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 22:22:11
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Regular Dakkanaut
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A quick google didn't answer this question so I'm turning to dakka.
A stealth field generator makes a firer roll 'as if night fighting' for spotting. I know SMS and I think the hive guard ignore night fighting, so RAI would be that they ignore the stealth field generator. RAW the 'as if night fighting' isn't Night Fighting so it might impact these weapons that don't need LOS.
I have a 400 pt CP tourny coming up where I'm fielding a pair of sniper drone units and there are a few hive guard around, so I wanted to get an idea of what to expect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/29 22:59:33
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It isnt nightfighting, so you still roll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/30 19:03:56
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I believe it's been faq'ed by GW or the INAT that Hive Guard still make the night fighting roll...for some stupid reason...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/30 19:09:17
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Because it isnt nightfighting, mainly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/30 19:12:32
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's not nightfighting but it says 'as if nightfighting' which is clear cut that any effects that apply to night fights apply to stealth field generators. So Acute Senses would apply to a Stealth field, cause it uses 'as if' rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/30 20:15:45
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Drone without a Controller
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The exact quote is "as if fighting at night," not "as if subject to Night Fighting." I believe the use of "as if fighting at night" is to clarify how the stealth field generator is used.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/30 20:20:09
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Regular Dakkanaut
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And how would that negate the notion that a hive guard doesn't have roll for the site? Along with other units that ignore LOS. Automatically Appended Next Post: OR does have to roll, as my argument suggests
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/09/30 20:20:35
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/09/30 20:30:46
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It has to roll because you are told you have to roll. Same as VoT makes you roll.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/01 03:03:49
Subject: Hive Guard or SMS vs. stealth field generator
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Huge Hierodule
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The SMS and Hive guard must roll for nightfighting, or all instances of "just like night fighting" for a reason different than what's been stated above:
Night fighting rolls do not test for Line of Sight, but rather 'spotting distance' to see the range of your weapon. So while the special rules of the aforementioned units ignore LOS, night fighting does not specifically deal with LOS but a different game mechanic (spotting distance). That is why Hive Guards and SMS (and barrage! but they have a further specific mention in night fighting that allows them to fire even if their target is out of range) must roll night fighting.
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