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Here's a list I cooked up.
Opinions and criticisms welcome.
HQ - 125 points
Company command squad:
-Sniper
-Lascannon
-Master of Ordinance
-Camocloaks
Troops - 710 points
Veteran squad:
-Harker
-Heavy bolter
-3 sniper rifles
Veteran squad:
-3 meltaguns
-Grenadiers
-Demolitions
-Chimera with heavy stubber
Veteran squad:
-3 meltaguns
-Grenadiers
-Demolitions
-Chimera with heavy stubber
Fast attack - 130
Vendetta
Heavy support - 390 points
Leman Russ Exterminator
-Lascannon
-Heavy bolters
-Stubber
Leman Russ Exterminator
-Lascannon
-Heavy bolters
-Stubber

Exterminators are the ones with the autocannons right?, if so there a waste of points as you can get two Hydras for the same price and have points left for upgrades!

People talk about synergy, and I feel this list lacks it. At the end of the day your advancing on your opponent with two Chimeras and two AC LRBTs. Single Vendetta makes target choice on vehicles pretty easy... Vendetta first, then Chimeras, then tanks.

It looks like you want to do mech, but you have non-mech units and units that are bloated on points. On a objective game, who is hanging back holding your home objective? If it is Harker, your wasting his Infiltrate ability. I have said this before... if you want to do mech, you have to /do/ mech.

You have alot of extra weapons on those tanks and a ton of doctrines on those Vets... that could be another vet squad with those points. The one vet squad that probably needs Demolitions is Harker and he doesn't have it. I also like giving his squad Plasma guns and infiltrating them into cover for 3+ cover saves (and 'Get's Hot!' saves). I also give them a HB and use them as a anti-infantry squad. Since you seem to be going in that direction this may appeal to you.

I like the CCS besides the sniper rifle, but it feels weird in a mech list. The Sniper rifle doesn't mesh with the LC or the MoO because they all have to shoot at the same unit. It also feels like a waste of Order potential.

Here are two lists... one mech and one hybred

CCS - 145pts
4x Melta guns, Chimera with Hull HF

CCS - 145pts
4x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 80pts
AC

Vendetta - 130pts

Vendetta - 130pts

1250pts

CCS - 150pts
LC, 2x Plasma guns, Camo Cloaks, MoO

Vets - 175pts
LC, 3x Plasma guns, Plasma Pistol, Sentries

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

LRBT - 150pts

LRBT - 150pts

Manticore - 160pts

1250pts

Good luck!

BlkTom wrote:

CCS - 150pts
LC, 2x Plasma guns, Camo Cloaks, MoO

Vets - 175pts
LC, 3x Plasma guns, Plasma Pistol, Sentries

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera with hull HF

LRBT - 150pts

LRBT - 150pts

Manticore - 160pts

1250pts

Good luck!

This list looks really nice. I am concerned about the manticore though. Such light armor. Would taking a 3rd LRBT and giving a heavy bolter to the plasma squad be a good alternative?


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BlkTom wrote:infiltrating them into cover for 3+ cover saves (and 'Get's Hot!' saves).

You can use cover saves for Gets Hot! ?

Indeed you can.

The Plasma Vets already have a Lascannon, so you would be unable to add a 2nd HW to the unit. I made them that way so you could issue Orders to the CCS and the Plasma Vets (if you put them within 12" of each other).

I guess I would rather make a 4th Melta/chimera/vet squad over a 3rd LRBT and give the CCS a plasma pistol or the CCS and the Plasma Vets melta bombs.


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Pg 31, BRB
'For each result of a 1 rolled on it's to hit roll, the firing model suffers a wound (normal saves apply).'

It is the 'normal saves apply' part. I know it makes no real sense besides the guy drops it quick in a puddle or something, but if he can qualify for a cover save he can take it as his save check.

I tried making another one.
HQ - 120 points
Company command squad:
-Lascannon
-Master of Ordinance
-Camocloaks
Troops - 615 points
Veteran squad: (camping objective, 3+ cover saves and anti-monstrous and horde)
-Harker
-Heavy bolter
-3 sniper rifles
-Chimera with camo netting, heavy stubber, heavy bolter and multilaser)
-Stubber
Veteran squad:
-3 meltaguns
-Grenadiers
-Demolitions
-Chimera
Veteran squad:
-3 meltaguns
-Grenadiers
-Demolitions
-Chimera
Fast attack - 260 (more than enough lascannons I think)

Vendetta
Vendetta

Heavy support - 205 points (rushes to get the demolisher cannon in range and always moves 6" minimum. Hence the dozer blade and extra armour)

Leman Russ Demolisher
-Lascannon
-Dozer blade
-Extra armour

Too many points into veteran squad upgrades, dropping them would give you some more vehicles.
Dropping those and the upgrades on the Demolisher should give you another Russ.

The Manticore is good and light armor is not really an issue because you would keep it out of LOS from enemy fire. In a case where there is no LOS blocking cover you could use the LRBT as cover, you could hide behind an LRBT and fire from behind.

Doctrines on a mech vet squad is not really worthwhile.

If you're putting vets in the vendetta then the vlakyrie is often a better choice as it moves/shoots better.

Vet snipers seems such a waste. if you really want snipers then get some Ratlings ...

Demolisher is too short ranged for this list. You want your big guns shooting from T1. At ver 200 points it's also pretty pricey for a 1250 game.