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My hopes for this list are to be at least semi-competitive against Tau, Tyranids, Orks, and Space Marines, but generally well rounded. Feel free to comment and critique.

Emperor's Champion 110
ABTWDTW

Crusader Squad 191
5 initiates
1 lascannon
1 plasma gun
Lasorback

Crusader Squad 207
6 initiates
1 lascannon
1 plasma gun
Lasorback

Crusader Squad 207
6 initiates
1 lascannon
1 plasma gun
Lasorback

x3 Land Speeder Typhoons 210

x2 Vindicators 310
POTMS

Terminator Squad 265
2 CMS
Tank Hunters

Any suggestions?

I would take heavy bolter preds as you might just need more antiinfantry and vinds will going forward alone.

Is that heavy bolter/autocannon preds or heavy bolter/lascannon preds? And also is that the predators instead of the vindicators?

Your lack of power fists also disturbs me, especially considering how cheap you can get them for in the BT codex

2 auto/heavy bolter for the 2 vinds.

You have a shooting army, just go with it. You lack troop killers.

DODcrazy wrote:Your lack of power fists also disturbs me, especially considering how cheap you can get them for in the BT codex

Don't bother adding an extra bolter Intiate into your Crusader squad, just put in a Neophyte as a wound sponge which is what the bolters will be doing for the PG/LC.

Powerfists kinda suck,1 Base attack, what are you people that keep advising them try to accomplish with that?

TLLC/HB is a terrible setup, you'll be wasting shots at w/e you fire at. AC/HB= awesome AI setup , TLLC/LC Sponsons= great AT setup, cheap as well, comparatively speaking.

POTMS Vindicators are not worth it unless you plan on moving up with a force to support them and mitigate fire.

If I remember correctly BT Autocannon/Heavy Bolter Preds are only 110pts. I would say find another 20pts to burn and get three of them.

Alright, so how does this look:

Emperor's Champion 110
ABTWDTW

Crusader Squad 201
5 initiates
1 neophyte
1 lascannon
1 plasma gun
Lasorback

Crusader Squad 191
5 initiates
1 lascannon
1 plasma gun
Lasorback

Crusader Squad 191
5 initiates
1 lascannon
1 plasma gun
Lasorback

x3 Land Speeder Typhoons 210

x3 AC/HB Predators 330

Terminator Squad 265
2 CML
Tank Hunters

Total: 1498

Better?