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I think I've been playing Mephiston wrong. I understand that an Independent Character can be singled out during an assault. Every time I've been in an assault where Mephiston is part of the unit, he's been getting singled out. Except that I'm looking at the Codex and no where does it say he's an Independent Character. So are the following true,

Even though Mephiston is not an independent character, he can still be fielded alone.
If Mephiston is in a unit being assaulted, he cannot be attacked.

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Mephiston is not an Independant character and as such may not join other units. If he is involved in a multiple assault (for example: a 20 man unit of hormagaunts charges both some Assault Marines and a nearby Mephiston) attacks could be directed at him by any models within 2 inches of models in base to base.

Long story short: He can't join units and is targeted in assault like any other unit.

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Joshua Belden wrote:If Mephiston is in a unit being assaulted, he cannot be attacked.


If he is not an IC then how would he join said unit?

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y0disisray wrote:
Joshua Belden wrote:If Mephiston is in a unit being assaulted, he cannot be attacked.


If he is not an IC then how would he join said unit?


He can't join said unit. He is always a unit consisting of a single model.

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Mephiston is not an IC. Treat him as a normal unit (of 1 model). This means he cannot join units, he does not have Move Through Cover and he follows all normal rules for assaults in the BGB.

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Yeah, that's where I've been going wrong. Well, I guess I won't be losing Fleet from joining units anymore.
   
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One thing to also note is that ICs cannot join him as he is a unit always consisting of one model.

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So how does mephiston react to honour guard? Can he join them as they are a sort of upgrade or not?
   
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Mechanized Space Corps wrote:So how does mephiston react to honour guard? Can he join them as they are a sort of upgrade or not?


No. Honour Guard are not a retinue - they are simply an HQ choice that does not take up a FOC slot.

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As above; he's also not an IC so cannot join with, or be joined by, anyone
   
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nosferatu1001 wrote:As above; he's also not an IC so cannot join with, or be joined by, anyone



Not that he really suffers for it. Isn't he just plain nasty anyway?

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Praxiss wrote:
Not that he really suffers for it. Isn't he just plain nasty anyway?


No invulnerable save. Plasma, Melta, Lances, Lacannons, etc just chew him up.

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Which is why you dont really see him anymore - DE just nuke him (tall enough vehicles to see over the usual razorback bodyguard help) and GK just shoot him with enough shots to make him drop.
   
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Huh. never ayed against him before, guess now i know why.

I just remember when BA first came out all the nerd-rage about how amazing he was.

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I still play him. I place him "in" a unit for the cover save. By that I mean I have a unit of Assault Marines surround him, and break open on the turn I wish to assault with him.

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jbunny wrote:I still play him. I place him "in" a unit for the cover save. By that I mean I have a unit of Assault Marines surround him, and break open on the turn I wish to assault with him.


+1. I usually put him behind a Land Raider, then use his 12" move + Fleet + 6" charge to catch a unit off guard, jumping from his hiding place, out into an assault, if possible.

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Praxiss wrote:I just remember when [insert Codex] first came out all the nerd-rage about how amazing [insert unit] was.


Ahh, the wargamer's mantra...

If you can keep your head, while all about you are losing their's, then you have probably completely misunderstood the situation!

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