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Hi all,

I need some clarification on points regarding movement of an IC in and out of assault situations.

It is listed in the 40k FAQ that ICs must move first in order to get into base to base when reacting or performing pile-in.
It also states that other models must move out of the way so that they can get into base to base with the enemy.

However, when moving a unit normally, and also particularly when entering an assault does an IC move at any point or do they move first?

I'm quite sure I saw something to this effect in the rulebook somewhere but I could not find it.

Thanks all.

EDIT: The above assumes that the IC is attached to a normal unit, if it's not clear.

plonka2000 wrote:

However, when moving a unit normally, and also particularly when entering an assault does an IC move at any point or do they move first?

When you assault a unit, the closest attacking model must move into base contact with the closest defender as the first move.

It makes no difference if this is an IC or not.

If the IC is the closest model, then th IC moves first. If not, the it's the closest model in the unit.

time wizard wrote:

plonka2000 wrote:

However, when moving a unit normally, and also particularly when entering an assault does an IC move at any point or do they move first?

When you assault a unit, the closest attacking model must move into base contact with the closest defender as the first move.

It makes no difference if this is an IC or not.

If the IC is the closest model, then th IC moves first. If not, the it's the closest model in the unit.

Great, so ICs are free to move at anytime (when attached to a unit) apart from when they are reacting to an assault or perfoming pile-in?

plonka2000 wrote:Great, so ICs are free to move at anytime (when attached to a unit) apart from when they are reacting to an assault or perfoming pile-in?

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That is correct.

Only when they are reacting to an assault or perfoming pile-in moves are they required to move first, or if not possible, when a path becomes available to move after you move others out of the way.

I thought that if a unit containing an IC initiates an assault, the IC must move in first, regardless of whether or not he's the closest.

Jimsolo wrote:I thought that if a unit containing an IC initiates an assault, the IC must move in first, regardless of whether or not he's the closest.

Nope only for the defenders react part.

Jimsolo wrote:I thought that if a unit containing an IC initiates an assault, the IC must move in first, regardless of whether or not he's the closest.

You and a surprising number of other people, presumably due to mis-remembering the Pile-in/React rules.

Jimsolo wrote:I thought that if a unit containing an IC initiates an assault, the IC must move in first, regardless of whether or not he's the closest.

No such rule exists. In fact it is ALWAYS the closest model that moves first, never anyone else

insaniak wrote:

Jimsolo wrote:I thought that if a unit containing an IC initiates an assault, the IC must move in first, regardless of whether or not he's the closest.

You and a surprising number of other people, presumably due to mis-remembering the Pile-in/React rules.

nosferatu1001 wrote:No such rule exists. In fact it is ALWAYS the closest model that moves first, never anyone else

I too had similarly confused the rules on this. I'll re-read the rules on this (again) and try to remember this oddity.

I think its because in every other assault connected situation the IC does move first.

I guess so.

In my mind, it's always been that IC's are heroes that should lead from the front, by example.

I thought there was a rule to support this notion, but I guess I'm wrong.

Still, I'm gonna have a double-check.

Double checking is fine, but it really isnt there

Yup, I've rechecked the rules in the bottom-left of page 49 of the Big Rule Book.

It's pretty straight-forward, as confirmed here.

I think that rule is easily misread the first time, but becomes clear with some context.

Thanks again you guys.