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Ok so the Goa'uld Empire decides to launch a invasion upon the IOM that apparently is in another universe the Goa'uld have found a special gate that is able to transport ships through to other universes. The IOM also discovered a similar gate on the other side and decide to invade. The IOM is at the height of their power and the Goa'uld is during Lord Ra's time. How will they do during Lord Ra's time or the Return of Anubis time?

The Goa'uld largely reached their power through being far more powerful than those they enslaved. They generally got beat down anytime anybody with *anything* like technological parity. As backwards as the Imperium is, it is still fairly powerful, and certainly enough so to deal rather handily with the Goa'uld.

What the hell is the Goa'uld?

Coolyo294 wrote:What the hell is the Goa'uld?

This is their wiki you can learn about them
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Goa%27uld_Empire

It depends who get first strike really. If the goa'uld manage to infiltrate the upper ranks of the Imperium and infect some lord or something they could possibly do quite a bit a damage.

The problem is though that the Imperium will most likely notice that something is wrong, due to their advanced medical technology, paranoia, etc.

The fact that the Goa'uld strategy revolves around them posing as gods won't do them much good either.

Now the Ori or even the replicants on the other hand...

COnsiddering the fact that the Gould were really just snakes, and the imperium has litterally hundeds of BILLIONS of imperial guard, not to mention the astertes and the mechanicus the gould stand no chance, their motherships are ok at the best and compared to an imperial battlebarge or full scale battleship they are NOTHING, let alone the fact that jaffa wouldn't hold a prayer to imperial gun lines, the jaffa fight like they are in the revolutionary war.

Skal098 wrote:COnsiddering the fact that the Gould were really just snakes, and the imperium has litterally hundeds of BILLIONS of imperial guard, not to mention the astertes and the mechanicus the gould stand no chance, their motherships are ok at the best and compared to an imperial battlebarge or full scale battleship they are NOTHING, let alone the fact that jaffa wouldn't hold a prayer to imperial gun lines, the jaffa fight like they are in the revolutionary war.

Yep. And in order to get the Jaffa, they'll have to indoctrinate imperial citizens.
You can guess how that will turn out.

hmm, yeah IOM all the way. I love the stargate universe but compared to a squad of space marines jaffa are punks. The SGC units ran rings around them with P90s and they're stormtrooper equivalents. Imperial Navy ships will maul the Goa'uld fleet and even a full Goa'uld lord should be no more troubling than, say an orc warboss or a chaos lord.
They could make temporary gains if they assimilate a few Imperial officials, but the IOM is too big for it to spread far before people figure something out.
Then they're toast. The High Lords won't think twice about ordering exterminatus on a world whose population is infiltrated by body snatching xenos

This was a good one, because I actually had to stop and think about it. Eventually I came down on the side of the Imperium, but I ran through several different scenarios before making my decision.

Earth: Nice, thought provoking question. Thanks.

And as a side note, I think that if the Goa'uld were to fight, say, the Tau, then it would be a toss up.

Jimsolo wrote:This was a good one, because I actually had to stop and think about it. Eventually I came down on the side of the Imperium, but I ran through several different scenarios before making my decision.

Earth: Nice, thought provoking question. Thanks.

And as a side note, I think that if the Goa'uld were to fight, say, the Tau, then it would be a toss up.

This may have been a little bit to one sided seeing how everyone has voted for the Imperium of Man (but then again we are on a 40K site)

See, I see it going a different way... The Goa'uld aren't stupid. They infiltrate. They'd act like chaos or tyranids. They're practicially immortal so can play the long game. They also don't have to worry about warp travel, and can travel across the galaxy much faster than the Imperium of Man. They're also extreme scavengers. In the amount of time that it takes the IOM to do _anything_ they would have adapted. Mind rape a few techpriests, steal a few womd and get the feth out.
Now if they were to play it stupid, they'd lose. If they were to play it smart, and didn't allow their petty rivalries to get in the way till _after_ they enslaved the galaxy... it might be a fair fight.
As well, if they were to ally with some enemies of the IoM... things could go a bit different.

21 votes=100% IoM

Ive followed the SG series but nothing in it has ever shown anything too impressive. Well compared to the IOM that is. Im sure Mother ships if put next to even normal Imperial cruisers are only the size of maybe a dauntless.

Have any examples of Goa'uld ubber tech or units?

ohh wait how about anubites? they can probably have a 3+ plus a weapon comparable to a stormbolter. however the WS wouldnt be impressive. I dont think the Goa'uld would stand much of a match. I actually like these x vs IOM scenarios

Imperium of Man

IoM would demolish them no problem.

IoM would not have any real trouble with em, seeing as their galaxy is a bit more insane than the ones the Snakes comes from

Goa'uld has no Space Marines.
They lose.

Shot for shot, the IoM wins hands down. In a straight fight, the IoM can bring numbers and power that the Goa'uld simply would be unable to contest. The Goa'uld, during the peak of their power, relied heavily on an immense technological advantage to subjugate or destroy any group that threatened their supremacy. As we can see from the show, the Goa'uld actually had very little capability to deal with threats from races whose technological prowess matched or exceeded their own, i.e. the Asgard, the Nox, the Ancients, etc. Even several of the human-derivative races were able to develop weapons capable of keeping the Goa'uld at bay (that planet with the orbital cannons, for example). So here I think it's pretty safe to say the IoM would crush the Goa'uld numerically, tactically, and technologically.

But let's look at the Goa'uld during the later part of the show. Their power had waned to such an extent that they could no longer even be considered an empire. In order to survive and reclaim as much lost power as they could, the Goa'uld were forced to engage in much more subtle methods of warfare. Diplomacy, subterfuge, terror-tactics, infiltration, planet-wide hostages, etc. Ba'al was a master of such tactics, and I think those strategies could be applied very well in a conflict against the IoM.

Specifically, several Goa'uld came into the possession of Naquadria bombs (using the super-refined form of Naquada known as Naquadria, produced on the planet of Jonas Quinn). Goa'uld also have small, nearly undetectable cargo ships which they can use to move from planet to planet. Since the IoM is composed of many planets, few of which (that we know of) have any sort of method to detect a small, cloaked cargo vessel (under the assumption that an auspex is comparable to "sensors" on ships in the SG1 universe), it would be a relatively simple task for a Goa'uld or one of his minions to plant Naquadria bombs near (or within) important manufactorums, planetary captials, and other sensitive areas of an Imperial planet. Given the desolation such a weapon has been shown to inflict, this might be a viable tactic to combat the vastly superior Imperium of Man.

Furthermore, if pure-strain Genestealers can successfully hide out on Imperial planets for generations, I don't imagine it would be too difficult for a pragmatic Goa'uld (like Ba'al or Seth) to insinuate his or herself into a position of power within a hive (or even across a planet, as some xenos have been known to do). Given the sheer number of planets in the IoM that are constantly under threat of secession, it wouldn't be that unbelievable for a Goa'uld of sufficient means to carve out a small piece of territory in the galaxy... that is until any one of the races in the 40k universe decides to seize the territory for themselves.

I'm not suggesting that the Goa'uld would have a chance in hell of standing up to the might of the Imperium (or really any force in 40k), but they might be able to survive as a disruptive/destructive element in the 40k-verse, alongside Genestealers and heretic cults, as they (in the waning years of their empire) had a very similar M.O. when it came to fighting.