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hey ive been observing allot of posts and ive started to get a grasp of how to form a reasonably competitive marine force would like a bit of input if anyone has an idea to give it an edge

Librarian
Avenger, null zone 100

10 tactical marines
las-cannon
meltagun
razorback
twin-linked las-cannon 260

10 tactical marines
missile launcher
plasma gun
razorback
twin-linked heavy bolter 220

5 scouts (bolters)
heavy bolter 85

5 assault marines
flamer
power fist
Rhino 135

vindicator 115

predator autocannon
sponson heavy bolters 85

i was thinking of dropping the scouts for another dakka pred but i dont really want to have less than 25 scoring models and 5 vehicles is a fair amount in 1k the plan is for the librarian with the assault squad the 2 razorbacks with the close range combat squads to push forwards in concert with the vindicator while the pred the scouts and the heavy weapon combat squads lay down some ranged covering fire C&C welcome

I think you have got a lot right with this list.
You have a good balance of weapons with lots of antitank but sources of antiinfantry.
You have a solid game plan with units sitting back then other units moving and shooting.
Everything is designed to work together.

There are other elements to consider however. I think if you wrote a 2000 pt list then you would be fine.
So for example one pred lying at the back by itself is just a target. Same with having one vind. It would be better two of the same.
Another example would be the assault squad at 2000 pts you want a cc option at 1000 pts the only you have afforded is assault marines.

Assault marines are rubbish. I guess this is to supply an antiinfantry unit, you should look else where. Try sternguard in a rhino maybe. 5 assault marines will lose against far too many units.

Scouts with bolters is not a great option. if you want covering fire then snipers is the way go, it will literally keep your enemies heads down.

thanx the first list i worked out had 5 termies with a cyclone instead of the assult marines scouts and pred but seing as i havnt seen them in anything less than a 2k list i thought id drop them in favor of 2 vehicles and 5 more wounds

i noticed people havnt got much respect for assult marines but it was the cheapest way to get a rhino for my libby so i rolled with it

hopefully ill get the army up and running for the christmas tournement

The librarian could ride in one of the Razorbacks. Also, if you drop the Assault Marines, you can get a second Vindicator and combi- weapons on your sergeants. An idea, at least. Though you are low on models, you have 2 AV 11 and 3 AV 13 tanks in 1000 pts. Not bad at all. Plus you have dual special weapons on your forward squads.

v true but on the razorbacks but he cant use his powers out the top of a razorback which was kinda what i was thinkin

are combi weapons really worth it? 10 points for a single shot with only 67% chance of hitting?

The combiweapon is so you get two shots when you most badly need it. Usually I have a melta and combimelta in a rhino. They rush into range and you need to kill the opposing tank before it shoots you, having two shots at taking it out is key.
Personally I do expect my troops to get out of my razorback so I do not waste my points on so much equipment.

I am sure if you had more points to spend you would find a better way to transport your librarian. It is hard to bring everything at low points especially compared to armies like orks who are already up to speed by this points total.

yea i think with that reasoning id prolly put combis in there at higher points bames when its not so difficult to get the wounds and the vehicles in there