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Why isnt the meltagun a template? Considering the new Space Marine game treats it as a cone shotgun like attack why cant it be construed as a cone attack? ap1 str 8 template too op?

dreadfury101 wrote:Why isnt the meltagun a template? Considering the new Space Marine game treats it as a cone shotgun like attack why cant it be construed as a cone attack? ap1 str 8 template too op?

Much too op. Also, it is a cone, but very short range.

I think you're making a mistake in assuming the tabletop game follows the rules of the video game. Tabletop came first, established how their melta gun works, and the video game took some creative liberties. The video game kind of combined a melta with a flamer.

dreadfury101 wrote:Why isnt the meltagun a template? Considering the new Space Marine game treats it as a cone shotgun like attack why cant it be construed as a cone attack? ap1 str 8 template too op?

Yeah... game makers take artistic liscense sometimes with demonstrating war game weapons and such in an animated world.

A S8 AP1 melta flame-template assault weapon, that typically costs 5-10 points as an upgrade on a model, would be very broken and unbalance the game.

Meltaguns are short-ranged anti-tank weapons. The shoot a focused but wide beam of heat that melts armor. If it was a template, it would have a lot less strenght and more AP, therefore becoming a heavy flamer. Also, template meltagun would be OP. Also, telling where the melta-range is would be more difficult (unlesss you drew a line on the middle of your template).

Plus in the game a bolter is like shooting a bb gun instead of a mini rocket launcher, and the storm bolter has 300 rounds when it is only a two barrelled bolter with 60rds.

ahh ok, so its supposed to be a beam? not a cone?

dreadfury101 wrote:ahh ok, so its supposed to be a beam? not a cone?

That's how I pictured it in my head.

dreadfury101 wrote:ahh ok, so its supposed to be a beam? not a cone?

Yep. That's how its described as in the Hero of the Imperium Novels.

dreadfury101 wrote:Why isnt the meltagun a template? Considering the new Space Marine game treats it as a cone shotgun like attack why cant it be construed as a cone attack? ap1 str 8 template too op?

In Kill Team its a ray gun with limitless range, though more effective up close. its basically a focused microwave and while they tend to disperse a little they certainly don't scatter enough to be a template. This of course is based on the assumption that destructive microwaves of the magnitude necessary to melt through armor would react the same way as microwaves used for communication ( which is really how I based my opinion)

dreadfury101 wrote:Why isnt the meltagun a template? Considering the new Space Marine game treats it as a cone shotgun like attack why cant it be construed as a cone attack? ap1 str 8 template too op?

Because they incorrectly portrayed the meltagun in the Space Marine game?

DoW 2 portrays meltaguns correctly:




Note the blue rays being fired by the Stormtroopers in the first 10 seconds.

kronk wrote:

dreadfury101 wrote:Why isnt the meltagun a template? Considering the new Space Marine game treats it as a cone shotgun like attack why cant it be construed as a cone attack? ap1 str 8 template too op?

Yeah... game makers take artistic liscense sometimes with demonstrating war game weapons and such in an animated world.

A S8 AP1 melta flame-template assault weapon, that typically costs 5-10 points as an upgrade on a model, would be very broken and unbalance the game.

Nah, a 5 pt guardsman with a 10 pt upgrade wiping out a whole squad of terminators is totally balanced!

LoL, if we have this there's no need for any other weapons.

I don't think changing it to a template is OP. You just need to modify it's point cost.

I'd say it'd cost 100 points, and be limited to 1 per army.

That'd be fair.

Grakmar wrote:I don't think changing it to a template is OP. You just need to modify it's point cost.

I'd say it'd cost 100 points, and be limited to 1 per army.

That'd be fair.

QFT & ILY.

Vehicle mounted Multi-Meltas used to use the small blast template, and could also fire as a Heavy Flamer in 2nd ed.
I would not be opposed to allowing the Meltagun to "Change Focus"
Meltaguns could fire as either as they do currently, or act as a flamer, Multi-Meltas, could also fire as Heavy Flamers.
I don't think it'd be too game breaking.