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As a new Ork (and 40k) player I have been working on a basic 750 point Ork list for quick games at my FLGS. I am interested in the Kan wall and so tried to put together a 750 point list that I could scale up as I get more playing and models - taking into account what seems to be successful for other Kan wall lists (Lootas, Shootas, Rokkits).

The reasoning behind some of the non-standard units:
- 20x Boyz with Sluggas: I have them from the AOBR set and wanted to have one unit specific for CC (as I enjoy assaulting).
- Grots w/ Runtherd: Namely points, I wasn't able to fit in a Deffkopta (and it seemed silly for just one) and I thought another scoring unit would be good, particularly a meat-shield scoring unit to boot.
- Grotzooka on Kan: While it seems as though Rokkits are the more standard choice, I tried to replace the Rokkit with the shooty Boyz and wanted to have the opportunity to try using the Grotzooka.

The list:

HQ:
Big Mek: (Kustom Force Field) - 85pts

Troops:
Slugga Boyz: x20 (Nob with PK and BP) - 155pts
Shoota Boyz: x30 (Nob with PK and BP, x2 Boyz w/ BS, x1 Boyz w/ Rokkit) - 240pts
Gretchin: x10 (Runtherd) - 40pts

Elites:
Lootaz: x5 - 75pts

Heavy Support:
Killa Kans: x3 (x2 Rokkit, x1 Grotzooka) - 145pts

Total: 740 pts

Any suggestions? Does it make sense to split the Boyz into two groups of 15 rather then one of 30? I am also not entirely sold on the Gretchin but didn't know how to use those points more effectively. Suggestions welcome!

Some thoughts real quickly here:

Heavy weapons on boyz always should be of the same type, so three BS or three Rokkits, not a mix. Otherwise you sacrifice efficiency as you waste BS shots against vehicles and vice versa.

Same thing goes for kans: don't mix weapons, at the very least if you want that loadout split them into different squads so they can pick different targets.

If you don't want the grots you could drop them and scrounge up a few points for another kan. Then you could have 2x rokkit kans and 2x grotzooka kans. I love grotzookas...

Splitting your boyz would make objectives easier to grab BUT it makes them easier to kill. With fifteen, they only need to lose five models to lose their fearless.

Those five lootas could be replaced by more kans/boyz. At 5 strong I don't see them living long if they are made a target. Even if they aren't, their shooting just won't be as good (in my eyes) as more kans to protect the boyz, or more boyz (more is always better).

Hope this helps. I love kan wall lists.

Looks like a great beginning Kan wall, just a couple of quick things

All boys should be shoota as you are gfoot slogging shoota boys are more ffective.

Take rokkits on kans always ( some of the best anti tank in the dex)

If you are feeling brave, at 750 for a leauge I ran 6 kans with rokkits and didnt drop a game, at this point level that many walkers backed up by a 4+ save is just over whelming.

Thanks for the quick reply - as I mentioned I am new to the game in general so the tips about not splitting weapons is greatly appreciated.

I think the idea of dropping the Lootas+Gretchin for some extra Kans and Boyz is a good one. More Boyz does always sound better...

When loading out your Nobs, are PKs essential? I know that a lot of the purpose of the Boyz squad is to deliver a Nob to the target but if they are shootas, are those 25pts spent on the PK worth it?

I like to think that they are. They can turn the tide against high save models, and open up tanks and vehicles. You won't need much anti-tank at this points level, but I like them anyway. Think of it this way: what will you do with the points you save? If your alternative looks more appealing, then obviously take that.

Just a bit of general advice,
Always spread your vehicle squadrons through as many force org slots as you have available.

In the Words of Brothererekose

Brothererekose wrote:
It splits your fire (good for you), splits his fire (bad for him, good for you)

this advice was given for tau but it applies to Kans as well.

This is also especially important in low point games. The last thing you want is to potentially lose or cripple all three kans in a single Eldar War Walker scatter laser volley. Its much better to force your opponent's multi shot weapons to engage one kan at a time.

It also lets you move them more freely, and do different things in assault / shooting. Much better. Always spread your guys out as thin as possible. The extra kill points are well worth the added benefits.

^Good advice. I'd do 2x rokkits, 2x grotzookas, 1x rokkit. That last rokkit can be used on a different target if the other two hit their mark.