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1750 points
HQ-reclusiarch-130

ELITES-sanguiary priest,jump pack-75


TROOPS-9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines,2xflamers-225
1xsergeant,power fist

9xdeath company,1xthunder hammer,1xpower weapon-225
death company dreadnought,blood talons,-125

FAST ATTACK
baal predator-twin linked assault cannon,heavy bolter sponsors-145
baal predator-twin linked assault cannon,heavy bolter sponsors-145

HEAVY SUPPORT
stormraven gunship,MM,TLLC-200

TOTAL 1750
my idea is hq and death company and death company dreadnought go in stormraven to cause mass carnage and the rest of the force advances untill in range to assult and ball preds ether support assult troops or outflank.

Well I guess the default reply would be that you mix vehicles and jump infantry troops and that can be hard to play well.

If the baal predators outflank, all the enemies anti-tank will try to hit your stormraven. And at 1750 points, that will be a hell of a lot of anti-tank vs AV12.

But I think you could make it work, Stormravens being a good delivery system for Death Company (but I haven't tried, yet).

If your stormraven survives till turn 2 and delivers the DC then you will be ok. Otherwise no. So yes why not bring this list.

The single Stormraven is going to get hammered. I would be inclined to drop it and just add jump packs onto the Death Company. Yes I know about rage, but once the Death Co are out they are gonna be raging anyway. This of course will leave only two Baal Predators which don't have enough armour saturation, but TBH there isn't loads to start off with.

Yeah, and when the have jump packs, you don't have to worry about rage too much anyway. They are fast enough at that point to keep up with the fastest.

Also, I would drop the reclusiarch and pick up Lemartes. He is 100x better than a regular chap/recl. He gets FNP, FC, rerolls to hit and wound, I6, a jump pack, and if he takes a wound he gets beefed up to S5 and 5 attacks. The only time he isn't worth it is if they are riding in a rhino, because then he can't go with them.

Single stormraven can work, you just have to play it right. Against any army with long range AT, keep it in reserve. The turn it comes in, move it flat out directly towards your target. If they shoot it down next turn, your units shouldn't be more than a turn away from combat, two at the most. That death company dreadnought has an even greater range with his fleet movement. Just try to separate yourself that you spent 200+ points on that vehicle and it will most likely be destroyed. I have had very few games where my stormraven lives, but thats ok because its point is to get my beefed up units into combat. It does, every game.

Well when you buy jump packs you are also dramatically increasing their price. Stick them in a rhino and save the rage for late, last thing you need is them to go crazy chasing down a fearsome . . . scout squad, and then going crazy trying to eat a Land Raider. I would, instead of the Death Dread, replace the two baals get 3 furiosos in drop pods and try to fit them with magna-grapples in order to maximize the number of vehicles you kill on the turn they drop in.

Cheers for all the advice guys im thinking of changing those baals into two vindicators because if the raven goes down ill still get two demolisher shots a turn which is pritty good.

Also, I would drop the reclusiarch and pick up Lemartes.

-well lemartes is a troop choice so then id still have to get a hq which would drain points away from the rest of the list but it a good idea for more casual matches.

1750 points
HQ-reclusiarch-130

ELITES-sanguiary priest,jump pack-75
sanguiary priest,jump pack-75

TROOPS-9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines,2xflamers-225
1xsergeant,power fist

9xdeath company,1xthunder hammer,1xpower weapon-225
dedicated transport land raider-250

heavy support
vindicator-145
vindicator-145

would this list be competative or just get crushed

I think having limited armour will be a downfall. You've got a big Land Raider carrying a nasty unit, that's gonna go down first turn. Then you've got two big ass templates which are also going to attract fire. I would ditch all the armour and also the Death Company and go pure jump list with Dev support.

1750 points
HQ-Librarin,jump pack-125 power sanguine sword,unleash rage

ELITES-sanguiary priest,jump pack-75
sanguiary priest,jump pack-75

TROOPS-9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-240
1xsergeant,thunder hammer

9xassault marines,2xflamers-225
1xsergeant,power fist



heavy support
devastator sqaud,4xML-130
devastator sqaud,4xLC-190
devastator sqaud,4xLC-190

and 20 points spare

Switch sanguine sword for shield of sanguinus, loads better and gives your Assault Marines a bit of a cover sve.

Switch that power fist on the sgt to a power weapon, flamers will be BBQ'ing infantry and when you charge you want to be hitting at I5 thanks to a nearby Priest.

If you dropped lascannons from a single Dev unit and changed them into missile launchers you could put the remaining points spare into a Scout squad which would be great at holding your objective.

1750 points
HQ-Librarin,jump pack-125 power sanguine sword,unleash rage

ELITES-sanguiary priest,jump pack-75
-sanguiary priest,jump pack-75
-sanguiary priest,50
TROOPS-9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-235
1xsergeant,PF

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-235
xsergeant,PF

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-235
1xsergeant,PF

9xassault marines,2xflamers-225
1xsergeant,power fist

5xscout,5xsnipers,5xcamo cloaks-90



heavy support
devastator sqaud,4xML-130
devastator sqaud,4xML-130
devastator sqaud,4xML-130
15 point spare
assault sqauds and sang priests with jump packs go crack some ork skulls while dev/scouts with sang priest on foot sit back and shoot anything that moves

Pretty good. I'd use 10 points to give a Scout a Missile Launcher. AV10-11 vehicles are probably the best target for them.

Another Chalice would be nice, but see how the current version works first.

1750 points
HQ-Librarin,jump pack-125 power sanguine sword,unleash rage
Honour gaurd,JP,4xmalte-205

ELITES-sanguiary priest,jump pack,PF-100
Terminators,CML3x chain fist-245


TROOPS-9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-235
1xsergeant,PF

9xassault marines, 2xmelta gun-235
xsergeant,PF

9xassault marines,2xflamers-215
1xsergeant,power weapon


heavy support
devastator sqaud,4xML-130
devastator sqaud,4xML-130
devastator sqaud,4xML-130

changed the list abit because i would struggle to kill MC or massed vehicles so would do you think?