1500 DE Malys assault

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**zindark**

Finish the assault list I was working on, its very simmaler to the other dark eldar lists that I have thrown together

Lady Malys (130)
Bloodbrides- x9, 2 shardnets, 1 hydra, all haywire, syren w/ agoniser (195)
in Raider- w/flickerfield (70)

Haemonculus- Liquifier, Scissorhand (75)
Wracks- x9, 1 Liquifier (100)
in Raider- w/flickerfield (70)

Wyches- x5, 1 hydra, all haywire, Hekaniser (100)
in Venom- w/ splinter cannon (65)
Unit x2

Scourges- x6, 2 haywire blasters, Solerite w/ Blast pistol (177)

Ravager- w/ flickerfield (115)
Unit x3

1492 total

I have a feeling most people are going to say drop the scourges for more wyches or something along those lines. I like the scourges in this list for the addition anti tank, I feel that they could beable to go tank hunting then fly away before they get burned... I dunno its a thought.
any input good or bad is welcome, thanks for any help, Peace.

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Any suggestions anyone?

**Akroma06**

Interesting idea. Malys may see more and more use if codexes that are psyker heavy keep coming out. Honestly you need anti-tanks. While I won't say drop them for wyches I will say I would turn them into DL. I'd also turn the solarite back into a normal scourge as you have to be at 6" to be able to use him. That's way to close. I'd also bump the wych squad up to 9, and turn the hydra into a razorflail, and turn the venom into a raider. I'd get another troops choice from the bloodbrides. You only have 3 troops in the list. Back to the scourges for a minute you only need to have the squad be at 5 for 2 special weapons as it is reavers that need 6.

**zindark**

Tweeked the list a bit, dropping some blood brides, fixing the scourges, and boosting the wyches... all in all not much changed.

Lady Malys
Bloodbrides- x6, 2 nets, all haywire, syren w/agoniser
raider w/ff
340

Same unit of haemy and wracks in a raider
245

wyches- x9 1 flail, all haywire, hekaniser
raider w/ff
218
like the last list this unit is duplicated, so there are two raiders of 9 wyches

scourges- x5, 2 haywire blasters
130

ravagers- w/ff x3
345

So again not a big changes, just more of moving things around.
As usual any help is appreciated, thanks in advance, Peace.

**Akroma06**

I like the full wych squad although I'm still worried that you only have three troops. I'm also worried about AT, you have 13 DL (1,1,1,1,3,3,3), 2 HB which only slow vehilces not destroy, and the rest is in CC. The problem there is that you can't charge the guys that pop out until your next turn, which means you have wyches on the ground, not in CC, and right next to the enemy.
Otherwise I kinda want to see how this list does.

**spyguyyoda**

I like it.

I personally love my scourges, but I think (haven't done it yet) I am going to start running them in slightly larger units with two blasters vs HWB so they have better odds against tanks.

I'm not overly worried about your lack of troops...holding objectives is overrated

In all seriousness, while I like Bloodbrides, I wouldn't mind you taking wyches with Malys instead. It is another troops choice (which settles Akroma's mind some), and you have less chance that you will blow right through a unit and get shot up.

I would probably try and see if you can also squeeze some points in for an acothyst with an agoniser (or give the Haemy one instead of scissorhand...or both). This both increases their leadership, and it helps against pretty much any opponent, since just about everything (except daemons) has some sort of armor save.

**Thor665**

I'll second the note for more Troops - I think switching in Wyches for the Bloodbrides is smart money.

For the cost of those 6 Bloodbrides you could get 9 Wyches.

So;

2 Shardnets
20 attacks
5 power weapon attacks
6 Wounds w. 4++ save

vs.

0 Shardnets
24 attacks
4 power weapon saves
9 wounds w. 4++ save
3 more grenade attacks
3 points cheaper

Also, what's the strategy in your mind with all those Shardnets? Your Wyches are in this army to kill the opponents - why bring a tool that just slightly slows them down? Why not just bring more Wyches or add in a Gauntlet/Flail so you're killing things you assault rather than locking up with them?

Additional thought - why 9 Wracks? Aren't these guys hanging back and shooting Liquifiers? I feel like you could trim that unit pretty functionally to sneak out extra points to bulk your Wyches with.

**zindark**

I finally found the time to work on the list this week, I've come up with two different ones, opinions on each would be most helpful.

list 1

lady malys, w/9 wyches, 1 gauntlet, hekaniser, in a raider w/flicker field (320)

Haemy w/ liquifier and sissororhand, w/4 wracks, acothyst w/ agoniser in a venom w/ splinter cannon (200)

Wyches x10, 2 flails, hekaniser in raider w/ flickerfield (210)

Wyches x5, 1 flail, hekaniser in venom w/splintercannon (145)
two units of these

Scourges- x6, 2 haywire blasters, Solerite w/ Blast pistol (177) sorry wrong unit

Scourges= x5, 2haywire blasters (130) actual unit

Ravager- w/ flickerfield (115)
Unit x3

1495 total

list 2

same malys unit
same ravagers
same scourges
2 of the same raider wyche units

haem w/liquifier w/9x wyches, 1 gauntlet, hekaniser, in raider w/flickerfield (250)

1465 total
I dont really know what to do with the left over points here any ideas

thanks for any help, Peace.

I know i forgot haywire grenades on the wyches though the lists will stay relativly the same

**Akroma06**

Both lists make me ask the same question. Why 6 scourges? You only need 5 for the special weapons. They don't break any tougher.
I normally don't run wracks but starting with FNP can never be a bad thing and I kinda think thats what your going for so the scissorhand just seems fun.

**zindark**

sorry its only supposed to be 5, I guess I had hit the wrong key

yeah I kinda like the first list, the one with the small wrack unit and two small wyche units, a bit better, I like the diversity. Of course my girlfriend will be playing the DE so we'll see what she likes better as she gets to play.

**spyguyyoda**

I like the first one better as well. The only thing is I don't think the blast pistol on the sybarite is worth it. The range is too short for me to believe it will ever be worth it.

**zindark**

Man I was really off the ball friday. The unit of scourges was copied and pasted from the list at the begining of the thread. The actual unit of scourges that I was meaning to put down was: 5x, w/ 2 haywire blasters, for 130 pts.
yep only 5 of them and no solarite with blast pistol.

**zindark**

one more list update... this time with haywire grenades

Malys
wyches x7, 1 gauntlet, hekaniser, all haywire
raider w/ flickerfield
324

Haem w/ liquifier and scissorhand
wracks x4, acothyst w/ agoniser
venom w/ splintercannon
200

Wyches x5, 1 flail, hekaniser, all haywire
venom w/ splinter cannon
165
three of these units 495

Scourges x5 2 haywire blasters
130

Ravagers w/ flickerfield
145
three of these, as most DE armies should have. 345

came out to 1496, I may have added wrong for the haem unit but i dont have my codex with me so i couldnt check.
Thanks again for any help, Peace

**Akroma06**

I would rather have a flail on the wyches that are with malys, or maybe a shardnet to help protect her, but otherwise it looks pretty good.

**zindark**

Akroma06 wrote:I would rather have a flail on the wyches that are with malys, or maybe a shardnet to help protect her, but otherwise it looks pretty good.

awesome thanks for all the help, and that is easy enough to just switch a model out