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I'm going to be up front here and say everything I've read so far about this book makes me angry.
Spoiler:
Captain get killed by a midget with a syringe. The midget is never killed, even though she says things so blashemous they have to rotate the guard for fear of becoming corrupted.
The soul drinkers have a thing for consuming the blood of their victims to get..information or something out of it. They even consume the blood of mutants.
Maintain that they fight for the emperor, even though the main character sprouts spider legs and the others with him gain various mutations.
When an issue arises with someone within the chapter, this matter is solved by the offender fighting the chapter master in one on one combat to the death.
Instead of giving up the main character to the inquisition to clear the chapters name of being declared traitors, the chapter master just fights him instead.
A minor character converts the main character and his force to follow the emperor, only he calls the emperor the architect of fate. So, architect of fate and mutations, and people still think this is about the emperor?
While being attacked by the inquisition, the main chapter fleet comes to rescue the main character by using a warp rift wormhole thing that hasn't been used for 600 years because it kills people that go through it.
So there is no real machine spirit, it's just technology merged with religious zeal because the tech has been lost. That's all fine, but appearantly a tech marine can enter virtual reality but jamming a cable into the back of his head, and go inside a computer and talk to it, convincing it that it needs to kill itself even though it didn't want to. wat.
Before going into this book, I was told it was about rogue marines who still followed the emperor but didn't fight for the emperium. about 1/3rd of the way through the book (they are about to go to a planet the hulk was bound for) I feel I've been lied to. This book seems like the story of how a space marine chapter falls to chaos while worshiping tzeentch without knowing it.
Soooo yeah, does this book ever start making sense, or light forbid, start getting good? The ultramarines omnibus was so much better than this one.
Edit - Fixed the blood drinking part.
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“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
They carry on fighting for the Emperor... they rject chaos and the Imperium (because it's corrupt) and simply try to help the citizens of the Imperium.
The duel is a tradition in the chapter.
Other than your last point the rest is pretty much as is and getting annoyed about it is on a personal level.
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Soladrin wrote:Night lords sometimes do the blood drinking shenanigens...
Ah, I stand corrected, this I did not know. I guess I meant to say loyalist chapters don't do it. I can see chaos doing it, I doubt they care what kind of horrible thing they ingest.
“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
Soladrin wrote:Night lords sometimes do the blood drinking shenanigens...
Ah, I stand corrected, this I did not know. I guess I meant to say loyalist chapters don't do it. I can see chaos doing it, I doubt they care what kind of horrible thing they ingest.
Some loyalist chapters drink blood.
Blood Angels, Flesh Tearers etc...
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze "You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry.
I bet money some of the more off-color Chapters do it. (Space Wolves, Flesh Tearers, Carcharadons)
But on a related note, I agree totally with you, buddy. You've made it farther into that book than I ever did. The malignant abuse of the English language was too much for me. Someone dropped the ball on that book in a serious way. Author, editor, somebody's head needs to roll.
All Space Marines have an implant that allow them to eat the flesh (and one would assume blood work just as well) of a dead foe in order to gain access to a part of deceased's memory btw. I'm not even sure the foe needs to be dead at that, it might work just fine on a live subject.
Yeah, every single one of them. From the most pious Ultramarine to the most demented Khorne Bersekers. It keeps with the standard implants of being a SM. The implant is called the Omophagea.
It's something many author tend to conveniently forget, as it makes writing a story based around subterfuge and mystery a bit difficult when you can just have the Astartes character shoot someone and eat them to figure out if they did or didn't do something. It certainly was a pain to deal with in my Deathwatch RPG game... had to put some limitation on it because things were getting a bit out of hand.
Now I haven't read Soul Drinker, I'm not saying it's a good book... but the whole drinking blood to gain info is not a break from 40k lore in any shape or form.
As from drinking blood/eating flesh from xeno or possibly tainted individual... it's probably not recommended true, but SM are extremely resilient to toxin and warp corruption (compared to normal human) so it may or may not have any effect on them really. Depends on the degree/type of corruption.
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Soladrin wrote:I liked it actually, but who am I eh?
Your opinion is just as valuable as mine. I see no reason to think less of you because you don't see things the way I do.
All Space Marines have an implant that allow them to eat the flesh (and one would assume blood work just as well) of a dead foe in order to gain access to a part of deceased's memory btw. I'm not even sure the foe needs to be dead at that, it might work just fine on a live subject.
Maybe that's why sgts don't like to wear helmets? Without a helmet in the way they can just take a nibble out of someone to help them to better assess the situation.
“Sometimes I can hear my bones straining under the weight of all the lives I'm not living.”
Soladrin wrote:The books aren't good or well written, but I dare say, they are fun.
It also has the most OPCCW ever.
The one with blades made of unreality?
Yeah that's a touch OP...
Dakka Bingo! By Ouze "You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry.