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Me and my frineds are doing a small tourney, last time I won so know everyone is gunning for me. So I decided to ask you guys for some advice.
My List

HQ 175
Pedro Kantor

Troops 435
Tactical Squad 10 man heavy bolter pg
Tactical Squad see above
Scout squad 5 bolt pistols chansowrd

Elites 290
Sternguard veterans 5 all with combi flamers srgt with pf
Dreadnought mm
Dreadnought las cannon

Fast Attack 300
Land Speeder Typhoon
Land Speeder Typhoon
Assualt squad Rhino melta bombs pw

Heavy Support 300
Predator all lascannon
Whirlwind
Devastor squad 4 rockets
1500 points

If you are taking Kantor I would expect to see more Sternies. Makes them troops after all.

He means they are scoring he is right though you should take more sternguard with Kantor.
I would go for 3 squads of sternguard, telion scout squad and tactical squad as the scoring units and build around that.

Nothing works together in your list.
First get some rhinos or razorbacks. Buy Razorbacks then convert if you want rhinos. Also use the same type for all your squads.

On the contrary, Rocket devastors kills light tanks like no other, Las pred takes out heavier tanks. I like Sternguard their guns are awesome and they make great counter assualt units or objective holders while behind cover. Kantor's rule is really just a bonus, I took him because I like his equipment and he is the cheapest, best chapter master. The land speeder Typhoons lay waste to infantry or light tanks. The assualt marines are dedicated counter assualt, along with the assualt marines. The Tactical squads I will split up into combat squads to take objectives or keep them together in Anhilation. I use my assualt scouts to take objectives with the assualt marines or use them to take out long range shooting units, fire warriors, Havocs, Immortarls, or assualt onto objectives to distract my ennemy from my incoming combat squads.

OK.

In terms of speed.
Your rhino with assault marines wants to rush forward with your assault scouts. Which units protect or cover them going forward?
You have one dread with 24''/12'' range which is alone in trying to move forward.
The rest of army does like to sit back and shoot.

IN terms of target saturation the enemy has targets for antiinfantry and antitank guns. Furthermore you do not give any hard decisions for the enemy in choosing targets.

Assault scouts, assault marines and whirlwinds are bad at killing I would consider losing those. With Kantor then why not chuck forward a couple of sternguard units and then keep the rest of your units back. That is 20 sternguard in two drop pods, which go and shoot up four units whilst the rest of your army sits back and shoots. Combiflamers are not a great choice for sternguard as they have special ammo.

Hi,

play CF for a while and your list isnt realy very good.

Asssault marines are slower in rhino then with jump packs, your troops are without transport. Pedro is awesome with sterns, so leave 1 tac squad and assault squad, take more sterns, give to your scouts sniper rifles, dread with Lascannons costs more then predator with LCs sponsons, drop whirlwind, take 2 predators with LCs sponsons and dread with 2x TLAC instead of LC. You will have some fire support. 1 Tac squad in rhino or razorback and scouts are enought if you take sterns with pedro, sterns are good in Drop pods or in transport and with combi-meltas/combi-flamers.

Hmm, I wouldn't have the Assault Marines in a Rhino, I'd stay stick with the jump packs, otherwise all you have easy targets.
And maybe try some fiddling around to get some more Sternguard in? Pedro Kantor is pretty much designed to lead a veteran army after all.

The problem is I have no more money, and the rhino is not only used for assualt marines but also for my assault scouts, the armies I will be facing are, orks (green tide), Necrons, Choas and maybe tau not sure about the tau. I will try to get the assualt marines right now I only have a squad with the srgt with a pw and a storm shield.

Do not take assault marines at all. They are just not good at assaulting.

What would you recomend then?

Honestly, this list looks like it could use more sternguard, not assault marines.


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Maybe do up a honor guard squad? Remove the jetpack and give all the guys power weapons, and then run them with Pedro?

If you're short on cash and it's a casual thing between friends, you can make proxies for drop pods pretty easily. I would suggest 2 for your tacticals, 1 for your sternguard, and 1 for your MM dread. You'd be much better off as opposed to walking around aimlessly. Just be sure they look the part, and I'd replace them with actual rhinos when you get the chance. Otherwise, your list is fairly decent already. There's definitely no need to rip your assault marines arms off and glue bolters back on

By the way "1500 semi-competative Space Mariens" should read "1500 semi-competitive Space Marines"

Okay thankyou speedo I will try a list out with drop pods instead of maybe my assualt marines for my dreadnought and my sternguard but not my tactical squads I want to keep them back if I can or I will try to reconfigure my list and post it latter.

What you could do with is a couple more sternguard units consider making 1 just like you dev squad as they work out about the same price maybe slightly cheaper and they can sore so you could have them on your objective doing what devs do.

My list for you is as follows

Pedro 175

10 Sternguard - 320
2 Missile
3 Combi Melta
Razorback / Rhino with dozer blade

10 Sternguard -315
2 Missile
2 Combi Melta
Razorback / Rhino with dozer blade

10 Tactical Squad - 245
Plasmagun
Heavy Bolter
Rhino Dozer Blade

Scout - 75
Combat blades

Landspeeder - 70
Multimelta
Heavy Flamer

All Las Pred 165

Whirlwind - 80

So you combat squad the sternguard into 2 groups of 5 and leave the missiles at your home objective then hop in the razorbacks with the 3 combis and driver off as you want

Interesting use of sternguard. I would never put them in razorbacks as they can shoot through hatches.
Especially as you have an elite choice spare. Also I would go for lascannons for them.

10 combimeltas in a drop pod or 6 with 4 combimeltas and 2 heavy flamers in rhino or 6 with 2 lascannons in a rhino would be my choices.

Scouts with combat blades? I know you will just camp out in some trees holding an objective but at least pretend you can hurt someone. If you took 5 sniper rifles you'll lose 5 st4 attacks, 4 at ws 3 who cares you'll still die in cc but however hidden the sniper rifles will be on the mind of the enemy.

Whirlwind? actually sternguard give you more than enough troop killing capacity you even have a heavy flamer.

I kinda like it, but I would...

Drop kantor, because he costs too much and doesn't really do anything and also doesn't have eternal warrior. You hardly even have any sternguard.

Get rhinos, because you need them to move the tacsquads around and they're essentially mobile cover. Just get rhinos. Devastators as well, you know you're going to roll DoW and you really want them in a rhino or pod then.

Consider dropping the scouts and using a combatsquad to hold home objectives.

Take MM or ML over HB in tacsquads.

Playtest the assault squad a little bit, because it looks pretty crap on paper.