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Quick rules clarification that came up in the game I played last night. I had troops on three different floors of a building. I had Jaws of the World Wolf cast across it. My question is do all 3 floors in that line have to take the (I) test?

My argument was that the attack is the earth opening up and swallowing things so it would only effect the ground floor of the building and not the higher levels.

My partner for the game also pointed out that perhaps the power cant be cast by a Rune Priest if he is not on the ground because he can not hit the ground with his hammer and open up a crack in the earth if he is 3 floors up in a separate building.

We were probably thinking about it to hard but when we lost his warboss to it we thought we might have a case on the multiple levels thing.

Just to get it out of the way at the start, it sounds like the issue is with Ruins rather than Buildings. You can't directly affect the models in a Building... they're basically immobile Transports.

Jaws would affect any models under the line. I see no reason that it wouldn't affect models on different levels.

So far as fluff arguments go, if the earth opens up and swallows the ground floor, what is holding the upper floors up?

insaniak: JotWW actually says that models touching the line are affected, not under.

You have to draw a straight line (1 dimensional, not a plane) from the Rune Priest. Anything directly hit by this line is hit by Jaws. Anything above or below it is not.



Jaws also says that you have to trace the line "along the board". This is open to interpretation. My vote is that both the model and the Rune Priest must be on the board for Jaws to work. If the model is on a different level, or on a piece of terrain, it is unaffected.

Clarification: Yes ruins not buildings

My line of thought is in line with yours Grakmar. We ended up giving it to him because it was just a casual game but we have a hardcore rule stickler that we play with who wanted it clearly defined and usually I follow logic when the rules fail.

To me logic would dictate that it is only the bottom floor and you need to be on the bottom floor to hit the ground with your hammer. Unless the hole that opens up is like a vacuum that sucks people in from above it they would not be effected.

insaniak's point about the ruins collapsing was made too but because the hole is only a line there is plenty of support for the ruins around the crack. Also if the ruins collapsed from it many models that were not in the line would be effected by it.

Grakmar wrote:insaniak: JotWW actually says that models touching the line are affected, not under.

I realise that. My comment wasn't a direct quote.

There is no way to physically draw a line along the board that will touch more than the first obstacle that you come to. The only way the power actually functions is if you assume that the line is actually drawn above the board, and just hits anything it crosses.

We have always read and played it as Grakmar states.

Generally we have also had the folks higher in ruins be immune for the same reasons.

As it is not a template/blast, it cannot aim up at a particular level.

ymmv

editing in words.

Insaniak - noone I've played with has tried to have Jaws hit models on the upper floors, because it tells you the line is traced along the board. It isnt a template, there is no "under", just "touched" - and you cannot be touched by a line drawn along the board if you are in the upper flooors of a ruin.

THis also means that a rune priest cannot cast Jaws while in upper stories of a ruin, as you cannot draw a line from their base along the board.

I agree that since JotWW is clearly a "line" and so should not be able to affect units on multiple levels of a ruin.

Furthermore the instructions say to draw the line "straight along the board". This indicates to me that you are not allowed to "aim" the line upwards at an angle to hit someone on the upper level of a ruin or a piece of terrain.

In our games we play it such that the "line" basically follows the contours of the board, much like if you had a thread of string, and you laid it on the board. The string doesn't "climb" ruins and other large structures though, it just goes "through" them to follow the contours of the board.