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Somewhere along the lines the Conservative vs Liberal thing when it comes to social issues got way out of whack.

At the core, conservatives want as little government involvement in their lives as possible. The effect of this would be states rights on issues of abortion, as it used to be, most states would allow it, some would not. Gays would be allowed to marry, given a state allows it, and their church will do it. People would be able to use any
drugs they want, as long as their state allows it, etc.

The seperation of church and state as defined in the USA founding documents, that the state shall not enforce or sponsor a religion. Which does not mean the two are entirely seperate, just that the state does not say "this religion is good, this one is bad."

Defense of the country and its boundaries, aka immigration laws and enforcement are a federal matter.

This is now considered libertarian, which a lot of people are, if they took the time to honestly evaluate themselves, and their positions on things.

There are some really good political spectrum tests online. There was one I really liked years ago but could not locate again.

A lot of the newer ones, ask questions in a more skewed way, and pair things in questions that are mutually exclusive. So be warned before you take the quizzes and reallly read and think about them.

Me, I am a right leaning libertarian. About 2 dots down, and 5 to the right.

Found the one I like. Good site.
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http://politicalcompass.org/test

Melissa - of course state government is government, but since the politicians are more localized, and not thousands of miles away. It is easier to hold their feet to the fire on issues. Also if you do not like how one state is run, you can move to another.

Most of the issues you raised in the original post have become national issues, so seemed you were talking federal politics.

Now does my response make more sense? The Federal government should have very little to no involvement in your daily life, marriage, sales tax, property tax, school funding, mass transit projects, abortion, etc etc etc. The Federal government should be doing the bare minimum, defending the country as a whole from invasion.

I even qualified it all with the fact that I am a Libertarian. You know, one of those whacky whacky Libertarians.

Make sense now?