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Well those trailers are nice, but this one is best in my opinion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2s30I-vAbY

It carefully removed all the terrible, terrible voice acting and cliched sayings, and replaced it all with a meme, but it worked for me. I can't watch the original anymore.

corpsesarefun wrote:A wild fanboy appears!

It uses promote-guildwars2!

It isn't very effective...

Wild fanboy faints.

It has flying battleships and giant robots.

Oh my. Do want.

Also on the TOR front, it's good to see the class I intended to try (Warrior) turns into a Juggernaut.

I think I'm one of those people, that when Wrath of the Lich King was fully done (ie, The Lich King was defeatable), that was it for me.

To me, Warcraft revolved around the story of Arthas because whilst I started with WC and WC2, I was very young and it didn't stick with me. WC3 was where I really got into the whole thing. Of course, I'm not speaking for anyone else by that.

I tried Cataclysm, but it wasn't holding me and I think I finally escaped WoW after playing from the very beginning.

Amaya wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:

Amaya wrote:

rockerbikie wrote:Pah. This expansion is made for the Casuals who play 1 hour a day and expect to have full epics. Pandas are unintersting and boring.

That was an intelligent and well thought out response. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Not my fault epic gear is being handed out too easy.

And other people getting epic gear is relevant to you how exactly? Oh, wait, it's not. You're just an elitist prick who doesn't want to see anyone that doesn't play 8 hours a day, 7 days a week getting gear the same tier color as yours.

Completely ignore the fact that the easy to acquire epics are several ilevels lower than the stuff hardcore players will get, which alone renders your point invalid and moot.

TLDR; Cry more.

Yeah, he's a bit late in the day to go on the epics rant too.

Epics stopped being "an Epic is an Epic" and became varying "ilevels" ages ago.

The Crusade arena (forgot real name) epics were like greens to people.

Cryage wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Putting it bluntly:
Epics stopped being epic when you were able to craft them using Bind on Equip materials or things you could obtain via Heroics.

When you had raid materials involved, different story. But putting it even more bluntly...

Who cares who could get epics? Epics were nothing but a carrot on a stick dangling before the horse, keeping those of us who raided to continue raiding and keeping those of us who did not raid wanting to raid.

Remember vanilla when wearing blue dungeon tier gear was fething amazing?

I remember thinking "That's a good guild right there" because it had a warlock with full Dreadmist.

RatBot wrote:But my purples are my entire sense of self-worth! If casuals can get purples, HOW WILL PEOPLE KNOW HOW SPECIAL I AM!?

I'm certain you had a different post here.

LunaHound wrote:Its just us pvpers, ours are "welfare epics"

I remember that. Started for me at 61 when I was using full grand marshal to level my priest in Burning Crusade.

The stockholder for Dreadmist. I only ever saw it once.

And yeah, I replaced Anathema/Benediction fast, the GM gear last to 65ish (I took bits off until I just had one item left to replace), but that's partially because I loved the looks of GM gear.

rockerbikie wrote:

Amaya wrote:Obviously a crappy troll.

Actually no... Hear me out. If you can't put the time in to be good at the game then you shouldn't be rewarded with the end boss. Your boss doesn't pay you for 45 hours of work if you only work 10.

Your boss isn't part of a game.

oops, shouldn't be responding to blatant trolling, just feeds.

corpsesarefun wrote:Bosses should be challenging.

Facerolling on the keyboard to kill hundreds of easy mobs for five hours before a relatively straight forward boss fight is not challenging, it is just a matter of who has more time rather than who has more skill.

Yessum. The only "skill" required I found when raiding endgame was finding people with good enough gear, an inclination to following vague commands and heaps of spare time. Pretty much all wipes were due to people who didn't follow vague commands and just sat there.

Mages and C'thun come to mind...

Counterspell the fething EYESTALKS

Most of my guilds raiding recruits were "casuals" we met in heroics who were very good.

It's sort of like people arguing with the fluff of army books (see necrons) when a new one comes in. Sure, nothing wrong with "I preferred the old, it was better" but saying "this new stuff is wrong, it contradicts the old and invalidates it!" isn't. It has replaced the old, the old no longer matters.

The fluff changes, and what GW decides goes, goes. The makers can retcon, cut and paste, hack and slash whatever they want and it will be the lore/fluff, as it's theirs to do.