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I was wondering if they were special rules about a stormtroopers army , since ive got renegates imperial guards id like my other army to be a little different, more elite .

thanks for the answers and sorry if this is a repost !

Ilove40k wrote:I was wondering if they were special rules about a stormtroopers army , since ive got renegates imperial guards id like my other army to be a little different, more elite .

thanks for the answers and sorry if this is a repost !

What do you mean? An army of entirely Stormtroopers?

Not possible outside of apocalypse.

The closest you could get is all Imperial Guard veterans with carapace armor and lots of special weapons.

Exactly.

They aren't too bad either. Sure they don't have AP3 weapons, but they can still cause a bit of pain.

I would love to see an all-stormtrooper army. You should try and work out a few stat lines, special characters, and points costs.

I'm sure with enough tweaking, it could be made usable.


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I'm thinking for the troop choices, use the template for inquisitorial storm troopers on pg. 34 of the last witch hunters codex, but allow them to take the hot-shot lasguns at 3 points/model, and allow one model to take a vox.

For elites, use the same template as above, and allow them to take additional special weapons. Also give them the option of long-barreled weaponry (to include a sniper element in the list).

You could, alternatively, make a close combat themed elite choice, where they replace their basic weaponry for a hell-pistol and CCW, and swap their WS and BS.

For fast attack, use them as they are in the new codex, but maybe take a point or two off per model (they are kinda pricey).

I also kinda like the idea of a storm sentinel. Basically just a regular sentinel, but with BS 4 and maybe some different weapon loadouts (for a higher cost, of course).

Maybe some stormtrooper bikers?

Valks and Ven's could be run as heavy support choices.

C&C?

Thanks for the ideas, anyway I only wanted to know if they were any specific rules but I don't care if not I won't play in tournament with this army only friendly games ! But it kind of sucks from GW not to make army list for Stormtroopers regiment

Ilove40k wrote:Thanks for the ideas, anyway I only wanted to know if they were any specific rules but I don't care if not I won't play in tournament with this army only friendly games ! But it kind of sucks from GW not to make army list for Stormtroopers regiment

That's because Stormtrooper regiments don't fight as a regiment, they're attatched to the regiments that they're supporting.

Ilove40k wrote:I was wondering if they were special rules about a stormtroopers army , since ive got renegates imperial guards id like my other army to be a little different, more elite .

thanks for the answers and sorry if this is a repost !

You could in the previous Imperial Guard codex, now the closest you'll get is IG Carapace vets.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:That's because Stormtrooper regiments don't fight as a regiment, they're attatched to the regiments that they're supporting.

Depending on what source you look at - according to GW's books there's only a single ST regiment (with 10.000 men tops if you go by the last known number), which sends out companies and battalions to be attached to other regiments.

Now, this didn't prevent various licensed products to claim there are multiple ST regiments and that Storm Troopers are far more common ... it's all about interpretations, and neither is "wrong".

Nor would yours be, OP. If the people you play with are fine with a Storm Trooper army, then go ahead? It's just not the "vision" GW had for them, hence you'd have to come up with your own rules there.

Alternatively, keep in mind that you needn't go "Storm Trooper" right away to just go for something "more elite". There's a wide array of different "styles" in Imperial Guard regiments, from infantry wave based Vostroyans right to the Elysian Drop Troopers. Maybe the latter or something along those lines would be more to your liking?

Vaktathi wrote:

Ilove40k wrote:I was wondering if they were special rules about a stormtroopers army , since ive got renegates imperial guards id like my other army to be a little different, more elite .

thanks for the answers and sorry if this is a repost !

You could in the previous Imperial Guard codex, now the closest you'll get is IG Carapace vets.

Isn't there a limit though in the old codex? Like 2 units or something?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Vaktathi wrote:

Ilove40k wrote:I was wondering if they were special rules about a stormtroopers army , since ive got renegates imperial guards id like my other army to be a little different, more elite .

thanks for the answers and sorry if this is a repost !

You could in the previous Imperial Guard codex, now the closest you'll get is IG Carapace vets.

Isn't there a limit though in the old codex? Like 2 units or something?

You could have 3 as troops, 3 as elites. In 4E it wasn't really an issue given that any non-vehicle could Score. I ran my 6 squads of stormtroopers as a mechanized ST company with armored support.

Brother SRM wrote:The closest you could get is all Imperial Guard veterans with carapace armor and lots of special weapons.

I think thats what i'll do !

Ideally, if your opponent would let you, you can use the last Witch Hunters codex, using Inquisitorial storm troopers as basic troops.

Or you could run a guard army, vets with carapace, storm troopers for elites, and have witch hunter allies, filling their two troop slots with inquisitorial storm troopers.

You could even have a few death cult assassins for some decent CC.

Forge world DKoK siege list could be used for a WWI style stormtrooper list, and the 4th Ed codex you could make stormtrooper army's easy. If you want BS 4 guys in carapace armor, build a scout army with the DA codex. Although maybe scouts are not a troop choice in DA? Doh! Don't have my DA codex in reach.

Only if Darth Vader is your HQ.

Yeah, Vets with Carapace is the way to go.

I knocked together a quick codex of stormtroopers, its in proposed rules. No SCs or anything, a few unique items. Kinda lacking in the HS section of the FOC as I am trying to emphasize the fast moving hard hitting thing. Have a look if you want guys

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Only if Darth Vader is your HQ.

Yeah, Vets with Carapace is the way to go.

If you want that Storm Trooper look, then there are many methods available. If you hate your wallet, go with Forge-World, or, if you are ambivalent to your wallet use the Kasrkin models.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Only if Darth Vader is your HQ.

Yeah, Vets with Carapace is the way to go.

Darth Vader is not in my HQ. But his helmet is!

You could always play a GK Coteaz army. Give all of your Henchmen Carapace Armour/hot-shot lasguns/3 special weapons per squad. They are only BS 3, but it is legal for all tournaments, opponents can't say anything either. You could convert a cool looking Storm trooper officer to be Coteaz. You can have up to 3 squads in Storm Ravens for air support, and the rest can be up to 12 man squads in Chimeras. Just don't take any GK units and it would work great.

Thanks for all the advices but I think i'll use the veterans squads (I'll use the Karskins models) and storm troopers (I'll use the stormtroopers models ) for the transports I was thinking about 2 squadron of 3 valkyries , correct me if I'm wrong and I dont know about the rules for the Vulture are they heavy support or fast attack ?

Ilove40k wrote:Thanks for all the advices but I think i'll use the veterans squads (I'll use the Karskins models) and storm troopers (I'll use the stormtroopers models ) for the transports I was thinking about 2 squadron of 3 valkyries , correct me if I'm wrong and I dont know about the rules for the Vulture are they heavy support or fast attack ?

Vultures are a Forgeworld unit. Are you thinking Vendettas? They're FA.

Brother SRM wrote:

Ilove40k wrote:Thanks for all the advices but I think i'll use the veterans squads (I'll use the Karskins models) and storm troopers (I'll use the stormtroopers models ) for the transports I was thinking about 2 squadron of 3 valkyries , correct me if I'm wrong and I dont know about the rules for the Vulture are they heavy support or fast attack ?

Vultures are a Forgeworld unit. Are you thinking Vendettas? They're FA.

no I was thinking Forgeworld! I love their apache look like ! can they be used in regular games?

I wouldn't mind fighting an entire ST army as long as I was also allowed to have a "special" army.
As long as everything is agreed beforehand, no harm done.

The majority of tournaments will not allow you to use Forge World models, unfortunately.