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So as the subject suggests, what are Cadian Names based on? seriously, cant work out where their origin is from (21st century nation)
help please.

Canadian, definitely.

They have no real single origin.

Some are American, some British, some are Englishized version of German names, etc.

Basically just make it sound sci-fiy or think "What would Star Wars call Dave?".

I've always gotten a UN vibe from them, but I think that's probably because one of the first IG armies I ever saw was painted in UN colors. They're just pan-European like most things in the future, apparently.

would
Tolkien Blacksire be a suitable name?

Kanluwen wrote:They have no real single origin.

Some are American, some British, some are Englishized version of German names, etc.

Basically just make it sound sci-fiy or think "What would Star Wars call Dave?".

I don't mean to sound like a pedantic witch, but...
there's no such thing as an "american" name, not really anyway. Only things like "Chad" and "Chuck", which are just abbreviations of English names really.
And English=German for all intents and purposes (though I wouldn't say that in England...).
So American=German=English.
Pretty much all of Western Europe have the same names really, a few exceptions here and there.

Joey wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:They have no real single origin.

Some are American, some British, some are Englishized version of German names, etc.

Basically just make it sound sci-fiy or think "What would Star Wars call Dave?".

I don't mean to sound like a pedantic witch, but...
there's no such thing as an "american" name, not really anyway. Only things like "Chad" and "Chuck", which are just abbreviations of English names really.
And English=German for all intents and purposes (though I wouldn't say that in England...).
So American=German=English.
Pretty much all of Western Europe have the same names really, a few exceptions here and there.

If that is the case why can't I understand German or British for that matter. I am no duffer that's for sure.

I'm kidding of course.

It just amuses me when colonials pretend to be "different" somehow...one day you'll figure that you're European really

Eh, no... Americans aren't really European... not anymore, anyway. I mean, sure, most of us are Euro-descended, but... well, guess you would have to live here to see it.

I'm American and I've been to Europe and, let me tell you, for the most part? Europeans tend to carry and comport themselves differently and, to my America point of view, better.

Dunno, there's just something... less-assholish about most Europeans that I've encountered/observed/whatevered than is evidenced in America.

There are, of course, exceptions, to both sides of this... but Americans really lack something... let's call it "cultural maturity"... to lump them in as Europeans-overseas.

I agree with everything you've said, actually. America very much has the feel of a culture that, if it was a person, you'd say had never had to pick his teeth up from the gutter. They've never *really* known poverty, starvation, being overwealmed by a foreign enemy. In Britain we never felt more at home than during 1940 when it was us alone against a vastly more powerful foreign power. America has no idea what this feels like, and fingers crossed, it never will.
BUT.
Compare America to somewhere non-European. Arabia say, or China.
Compare the values, way of life, culture, politics with these countries and it becomes immediately obvious that america is much more closely aligned with Europe than anywhere else.
All countries are unique, but no nation is an island (except Britain, obviously). They don't just spring up in a vaccuum.

I used "American names" in my statement because in terms of surnames and first names, many of those used now are bastardized translations which were done by immigration officials when immigrants arrived. If they couldn't do a 'sound alike', they'd assign immigrants a generic new name like "Joe and Jill Smith" or things like that.

Yeah, and "Joe and Jill Smith" are quintessentially English names
I'm picking hairs here so I apologise if I come across as a dick.

Use whatever name you bloody well feel like. I think that name you suggested sounds nice. A little much for a regular guy, good name for a leader though. I was thinking of painting names on my individual catachan guys as well. Names like Boomer, Tex, Norris, Bones, Martyr, Lawson, Barker, Boon etc...

We had a thread back a while ago on the origins of different GW names and it seems pretty clear the Cadian Shock Troops are based on...




Yes, Canadian Shock Troops.

The descriptions of Cadia with mountains, glaciers and cold mist also fit in with this.

Now of course you can give anyone any name you want. Cadia logically would be a melting pot with IG regiments from across the galaxy constantly cycling in. Even if you give a name that is not quiticentially Anglo-Canadian maybe he's a 5th generation descendant of an off-world unit.

But if you want to stay in line with this obscure bit of fluff google up some Canadian war heroes from WWI, WWII or Korea.


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Kanluwen wrote:I used "American names" in my statement because in terms of surnames and first names, many of those used now are bastardized translations which were done by immigration officials when immigrants arrived. If they couldn't do a 'sound alike', they'd assign immigrants a generic new name like "Joe and Jill Smith" or things like that.

(Pedantic) No. That is an urban myth. No one had their names changed at Ellis Island or in immigration. The U.S. in fact was strict about needing to know someone's real name. The US government after all has a strong interest in knowing who you are and where you came from before letting you settle in the US permanently.

What happened is later, for convenience or to overcome prejudice, immigrants would adapt Americanized names, Schmit to Smith and all that. Sometimes it was just a matter of translating the names like Jorge to George. When taking US citizenship they even have the option to legally change their name.

We still see this today with people from South Asia or East Asia taking on Americanized nicknames that are easier to spell or remember for Americans while keeping their original name.

Even Mrs Kyoto has considered this (but hasn't done it).

But please purge from your memory any stories about people in Ellis Island assigning names, it flat out did not happen. (/Pedantic)

Psienesis wrote:Eh, no... Americans aren't really European... not anymore, anyway. I mean, sure, most of us are Euro-descended, but... well, guess you would have to live here to see it.

I'm American and I've been to Europe and, let me tell you, for the most part? Europeans tend to carry and comport themselves differently and, to my America point of view, better.

Dunno, there's just something... less-assholish about most Europeans that I've encountered/observed/whatevered than is evidenced in America.

There are, of course, exceptions, to both sides of this... but Americans really lack something... let's call it "cultural maturity"... to lump them in as Europeans-overseas.

which is sad because lady gaga and Justin biebeinator have made their way to deutschland and other european countries. Some guys I talked to on steam (Germans) said they call the langauge of the kids/teenagers Denglish because they speak german and english together.

Sad that America's Donkey BONER culture has to extend to europe. I mean I can't walk in a city in america without being alert for a mugger or a just an alright douche bag looking for a fight. Such bull crap. I mean I know thats in europe but the things I hear about europe make america seem like a pretty bad place to walk the streets at night. But the best place I heard of was Thailand. Some family friends are from there and in Bangkok you can walk through alleys at night and not be worried AT ALL.

"Fear of crime" is worse in some countries than others.
The chance of being attacked may be the same in two places, but the fear of it will stop people feeling safe.

Blame the media, and reported stats.

From what I've seen, and I've not been to the States, Americans seem to be more sure of their rights, including forcing those rights on others.
Before anyone misreads this, I mean how brash Americans generally appear, compared to most people who appear more passive/ accomodating.

There's a lot of it here, too. It's a generalisation, to be taken as all generalisations should be.

Brother SRM wrote:I've always gotten a UN vibe from them, but I think that's probably because one of the first IG armies I ever saw was painted in UN colors. They're just pan-European like most things in the future, apparently.

Luckily GB is in Europe (albeit some dont want that..), because otherwise, if Americans were thinking asbout it we would get silly French names.
'Lord Castellan Gérard Ursárkèr É Credait' or something like that.

Since the aristocrats in England spoke French until the time we learnt how to use forks (quite recently), I'm surprised we don't have more French names anyway.

Lucky you.

Joey wrote:It just amuses me when colonials pretend to be "different" somehow...one day you'll figure that you're European really

and one day everyone will realize that all modern Humans (Homo Sapien Sapiens) came from what is now called Africa.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:We had a thread back a while ago on the origins of different GW names and it seems pretty clear the Cadian Shock Troops are based on...




Yes, Canadian Shock Troops.

The descriptions of Cadia with mountains, glaciers and cold mist also fit in with this.

Now of course you can give anyone any name you want. Cadia logically would be a melting pot with IG regiments from across the galaxy constantly cycling in. Even if you give a name that is not quiticentially Anglo-Canadian maybe he's a 5th generation descendant of an off-world unit.

(Pedantic)

If we're going to be pedantic...

Cadia does not have regiments "constantly cycling in" as you suggest. Cadian Regiments are raised from the Cadian population, and has nothing to do with outsiders being cycled in. There are regiments which can trace their lineage back to Cadia proper, but have been settled upon a new homeworld. The Brimlock Dragoons are supposedly one such regiment, from what fluff we have about them.

It's also worth noting that mountains, glaciers, and cold mist is for the polar regions of Cadia. The polar regions are not the only climate which we see for Cadia. It also has a large amount of moors, woodlands, open plains, etc. It's very much an Earth-like climate system, as it's not one single weather or geographical feature defining the whole of the planet.

The Cadacus region(which we had introduced to us by the second Eisenhorn novel), however, is very similar to Canada in terms of climate and geography.

CANADIA!

I dunno anything about Cadia or Canadia, but they sound the same.

 thenoobbomb wrote:
Luckily GB is in Europe (albeit some dont want that..), because otherwise, if Americans were thinking asbout it we would get silly French names

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