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Hey! Bought myself some Vallejo primer (white) for thoes rainy days. I tried it on an old plastic model. I brushed it on. Its so very thin almost like a wash. It goes into every crack and kinda ruin the details.

Any1 else tried it out or know if Im doing something wrong. Or do you know a brand that is better?

Are you sure it isn't meant for airbrushes? I have some Vallejo grey primer I use in my airbrush. It is also super thin, as befits an airbrush primer.

I've used it, its great. I highly recommend applying it with a airbrush though.

I've recently started using Vallejo black primer. So good, so thin, no need to thin it further. I haven't had the problem of it running into the details, maybe you need less paint on the brush.

I use it with a large, flat brush, they say it's good for both brush and airbrush application - and I'm not gonna buy an airbrush just for priming.

I've only got good things to say about it.

1) You are talking about the brush-on poly primer right? You didn't just spray the spray primer into a container and use that to prime?



This stuff.

2) I got the black one recently, haven't tried it out yet but did a tonne of research on people who'd used it and all of them seemed to agree on a few points, mainly that: it's awesome, don't thin it - use it straight out of the bottle, and it covers really well.

It's possible you have a bad bottle, but I think its more likely you've either thinned it or used way too much, too thickly, too fast. It may take a couple of coats of this primer to give you a smooth coat, especially for white I suspect.

EDIT: A thought just occurred to me. Vallejo do do a paint which is white called "White Primer"... which isn't a primer. It's #02 I believe on the reference chart.



If your paint looks like the leftmost paint here, that would be your problem.

LadyCassandra wrote:1) You are talking about the brush-on poly primer right? You didn't just spray the spray primer into a container and use that to prime?



This stuff.

2) I got the black one recently, haven't tried it out yet but did a tonne of research on people who'd used it and all of them seemed to agree on a few points, mainly that: it's awesome, don't thin it - use it straight out of the bottle, and it covers really well.

It's possible you have a bad bottle, but I think its more likely you've either thinned it or used way too much, too thickly, too fast. It may take a couple of coats of this primer to give you a smooth coat, especially for white I suspect.

EDIT: A thought just occurred to me. Vallejo do do a paint which is white called "White Primer"... which isn't a primer. It's #02 I believe on the reference chart.



If your paint looks like the leftmost paint here, that would be your problem.

Yeah, I've got the black version of the top one - it's awesome. I also have that second white primer, used it once - it didn't work, tried it again and just gave up with it. It's the Vallejo polyurethane primers that are great, not that small dropper bottle one.

I also use the Vallejo primer, in an airbrush, and love it... but for brush-on primer you might try gesso? ...I am not personally a huge fan, but many people here swear by it.

I also use the Vallejo Primers in gray. I have applied it by airbrush and brush and it worked great both ways. If you do it by brush just apply 2 thin coats instead of one thick one and you should be golden.

Cheers,


IK-Painter

I wouldn't use Gesso unless you are willing to experiment with it. In the right thickness it is good but too thick and you will dub out all of your detail.

Re the Vallejo primers, I have them (White and Black and therefore Grey as well ). I use them through an airbrush but the labelsays that you can brush it on as well.

There is no reason whay it shouldn't work for the OP unless it is a duff bottle or he hasn't shaken it enough?

Well, the Vallejo people certainly think you can brush on their primer.

http://www.acrylicosvallejo.com/gb/primers-gb.html wrote:Acrylic-Poliurethan Primer. Apply directly without diluting with airbrush or brush. Leaves a mat, self-levelling coating of extraordinary strength and completely resistant to further manipulation, which does not leave imprints nor hide minute details. Ideal for surfaces like plastics, brass, resin, etc.

I really don't think airbrushing is the only way to go here, though I'm sure it gives better results on a one-for-one basis since it's, well, airbrushing. Gesso is an alternative, but without a direct comparison I can't say whether it's better or worse than the Acrylic-Polyurethane Primers. They have been given rave reviews from airbrushers and brush-on aficionados alike, which is why I bought a bottle.

EDIT: Goodness, double ninja-ed. Nice to hear the reviews were right.

EDIT EDIT: Oh, I just realised he said it was an old plastic model as well. If it's been handled, you may want to wash it before you prime it, so the oils in your hands from when you've been handling it don't form a protective layer between the paint and the plastic. In fact, even new models can have mould residue from the creation process which acts in a similar way.

LadyCassandra wrote:1) You are talking about the brush-on poly primer right? You didn't just spray the spray primer into a container and use that to prime?



This stuff.

2) I got the black one recently, haven't tried it out yet but did a tonne of research on people who'd used it and all of them seemed to agree on a few points, mainly that: it's awesome, don't thin it - use it straight out of the bottle, and it covers really well.

It's possible you have a bad bottle, but I think its more likely you've either thinned it or used way too much, too thickly, too fast. It may take a couple of coats of this primer to give you a smooth coat, especially for white I suspect.

EDIT: A thought just occurred to me. Vallejo do do a paint which is white called "White Primer"... which isn't a primer. It's #02 I believe on the reference chart.



If your paint looks like the leftmost paint here, that would be your problem.

Ye I have the 73.600. Says it can be used in airbrush or brushed on. Maybe I had to much on my brush. Gonna try some more today. Will also wash the models before I try. ALways do it, but sinc eit was a old model I rly didnt care, but will do with 1 to be sure.