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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 13:51:43
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was curious what happens if you "Out Flank" someone but there is No place to put the model on the rolled table edge that is outside an inch from an enemy model? If there is a enemy model every inch on that table edge, does the unit then get a deep strike mishap, continue in reserves, get destroyed or deploy on other table edge?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 13:55:45
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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The Hive Mind
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Destroyed. They're unable to fully move onto the table.
Although, covering an entire table edge is relatively difficult, especially since you can't be sure when the outflankers are going to arrive
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My beautiful wife wrote:Trucks = Carnifex snack, Tanks = meals. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 14:25:00
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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BRB FAQ, they are destroyed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 14:33:24
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Poxed Plague Monk
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Remember that you can move within 1" of enemy model, but cant stop there. So you can come to play from outflank and move the models straigth outside of the 1" of enemy.
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CSM 40k : ~4.3k
Skaven : FB ~2,5k
Daemons FB & 40k ~1,7k
Lizardmen 1k
Lotsa chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 14:35:01
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Incorrect, entirely so.
AT NO POINT may you move within 1" of an enemy model, except in ASsault.
P11, models in the way
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/10/26 14:36:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 14:36:46
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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Lumppu wrote:Remember that you can move within 1" of enemy model, but cant stop there. So you can come to play from outflank and move the models straigth outside of the 1" of enemy.
This would not be possible as for something to move somewhere they must be able to get there base through this area so if they cannot move there. I guess you could bend the ruels and place them 6" on the table as if they magically spwaned/teleported there or they had to fight there way through.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 16:49:37
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Can land speeders or other vehicles that can hover still come on? Can't they move over enemy troops as long as they do not end their movement within 1" of an enemy model? Or am I just imagining that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 16:51:51
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They ignore intervening models, so yes. Same for jet bikes, JI, JP, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 19:07:05
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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And, unless I'm mistaken, standard vehicles could tank shock on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 19:35:35
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Shrike325 wrote:And, unless I'm mistaken, standard vehicles could tank shock on.
You are mistaken. Only tanks can tank shock on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 19:47:50
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Grakmar wrote:Shrike325 wrote:And, unless I'm mistaken, standard vehicles could tank shock on.
You are mistaken. Only tanks can tank shock on.
I consider tanks to be the standard vehicle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/27 00:27:11
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Shrike325 wrote:Grakmar wrote:Shrike325 wrote:And, unless I'm mistaken, standard vehicles could tank shock on.
You are mistaken. Only tanks can tank shock on.
I consider tanks to be the standard vehicle
Maybe so, but since not all vehicles are tanks, it's better to be more specific. I also read it as you saying that non-tanks could tank shock on, since Tank is a vehicle rule, just as Fast, Open-topped, etc, and a "standard" vehicle would be one with no special rules. Don't think any actually exist, but anyways.
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Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/27 00:53:05
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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don_mondo wrote:Shrike325 wrote:Grakmar wrote:Shrike325 wrote:And, unless I'm mistaken, standard vehicles could tank shock on.
You are mistaken. Only tanks can tank shock on.
I consider tanks to be the standard vehicle
Maybe so, but since not all vehicles are tanks, it's better to be more specific. I also read it as you saying that non-tanks could tank shock on, since Tank is a vehicle rule, just as Fast, Open-topped, etc, and a "standard" vehicle would be one with no special rules. Don't think any actually exist, but anyways.
I agree. I was more clarifying that I agree that only tanks can tank shock, but that I considering tanks to be "standard" and (because I'm stupid sometimes) didn't feel the need to be specific.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/27 05:03:02
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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There is a great picture somewhere of a Tau player auto-winning a game when his White Scars opponent decided to place his entire army in reserves and the Tau player managed to place his Kroot along the entire table edge. (No special characters allowed, so no outflank if I recall correctly).
Now if you have an army that can outflank, then it would be harder to cover all the edges of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/27 06:45:45
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Yep, no Khan so it was an all bike white scars army
At the time that picture was taken there was no real GW ruling on the matter, but they ruled it as "destroyed" at that point.
Best part? Despite that being one of the best known gaming photos, someone did the same thing the following year....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 19:50:33
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
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Every time I see that photo I laugh.
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nosferatu1001 wrote:That guy got *really* instantly killed. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 20:21:14
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
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d-usa wrote:There is a great picture somewhere of a Tau player auto-winning a game when his White Scars opponent decided to place his entire army in reserves and the Tau player managed to place his Kroot along the entire table edge. (No special characters allowed, so no outflank if I recall correctly).
Now if you have an army that can outflank, then it would be harder to cover all the edges of course.
 Sweet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 20:24:24
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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d-usa wrote:There is a great picture somewhere of a Tau player auto-winning a game when his White Scars opponent decided to place his entire army in reserves and the Tau player managed to place his Kroot along the entire table edge. (No special characters allowed, so no outflank if I recall correctly). Now if you have an army that can outflank, then it would be harder to cover all the edges of course.
How did he auto win the game. Couldn't the White Scars player have just walked on from his table edge.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 20:25:10
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Huge Bone Giant
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That is where the Kroot are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 20:27:31
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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Edit: Now I get it he used infiltrate in deployment and as there where no models he could place them where he liked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 21:09:52
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Zealous Shaolin
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redkeyboard wrote:Edit: Now I get it he used infiltrate in deployment and as there where no models he could place them where he liked.
Admit it  you are the White Scars player
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 22:15:44
Subject: Re:Out flanked but blocked?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
England, Sunderland, Hetton-Le-Hole
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Hesh_Tank_On wrote:redkeyboard wrote:Edit: Now I get it he used infiltrate in deployment and as there where no models he could place them where he liked. Admit it  you are the White Scars player No I hate all vanilla marines. Thats why I have Blood Angels. But anyway that tau player=Epic win
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/28 22:36:16
Subject: Out flanked but blocked?
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Manhunter
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Most definitely!
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Lokas wrote:...Enemy of my enemy is kind of a dick, so let's kill him too.
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