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So, I really want to play a flyrant list, what I came up with can be found here

But here is what I have at the moment and I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on a good list for what I've got.

3 Carnifex
-2 Stranglethorn cannon
-1 Heavy Venom Cannon

1 Trygon

3 Zoanthropes

2 Tyrant Guard

1 Lictor

12 Genestealers

1 Broodlord

15 Termagants

15 Hormagaunts

6 Warriors

I figure one of the warriors can be a Prime. I know fairly well what everything can do I just don't know if I can have a semi-competitive list with this. This is supposed to be a fun army and I got them because I absolutely love how Nids look. So any help would be great! Thanks in advance.

Hello and welcome.

Tyranids is a very funn army to play, but it is a very hard army if you want to winn. Also, it is very hard vs tournament lists.

If you want to beat tournament lists, you should check out hulksmash and dashofpepper's blog. (Do a google serach for hulksmash + blog.)

If you want a -funn- list you can play with friends and in a friendly local aria you are not so far away.

The zoanthropes are good.

If you have some green stuff/spare parts try to make the lictor a count as death leaper as moast SM armies out there (around half of the armies) have a psyker with a psykick hood. The DL is also very funn. Enjoy enjoy.

You should really get 3 hive guards. Perhaps you can put some guns on the tyrant guard?

Keep the genstealers and the broodlord, but use them in outflank. You only need one unit for this to mess up his deployment. If you are in a T4 enviorment (not a lott of eldar, tau or IG) then grab toxic sacks. It is awsome. (Rerolling for rending.)

The termagants are very good. Keep them.

The trygon is AMASING, but it will be the first thing to die.

Warriors are very bad (sadly) but the prime is very good. If posible, convert 2 primes and runn them with the 2 singel model unit carnifexes. Then they get feel no pain (thumbs up)

You get zynapse and they get cover saves.

Your next buy should be a carnifex you convert to a tervigon, some hive guards, another trygon (be shure to model it bursting out of the ground, then it is easier to give cover save to) as you can be shure to see come CC with two trygons, but not with a singel one or some 20 gargoyles to give your army a 4+ cover saves.

Welcome, and enjoy. :-)

Thanks, I really plan on getting a LOT of gargoyle's. I want a list with 60 gargoyle's lol. It's going to take me a long time to save up money for anything though. Luckily I have Grey Knights as well for a competitive list, so the Nids are just going to be a fun list until they get a new codex.

Lol. come back in 5 years, and maybe we'll have a new book.

Yeah I know it's rough to play Tyranid right now, but like I said it's a fun army for me, I got them for the models because I like how they look. I plan on playing them against my friends in friendly games only for fun. I have my Grey Knights for tournaments.

I didn't say it's rough, I just said we're stuck with our current book, good or bad, for the long haul.

Personally, I've been enjoying Andalus and jy2's Tyranid Fandex, and I'm quite excited about my enjoyment of Nids.

I've never heard of the fandex... do you have a link?

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/403347.page

In the Proposed Rules section.

^Thanks!

rigeld2 wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/403347.page

In the Proposed Rules section.

I endorse this smart man's post!

If you are playing for fun there are a lot of different things you can try. An all spod/Deepstrike list is pretty crazy. There can be some bad match ups in there but it sure is fun.

get more trygons, drop at least 2 carnifex. Do you want your list to be fly nids? If so I would strongly recommend gargoyles for their points costs, possibly a harpy or two.

^ Take a look at the link I posted to my flyrant list. I plan on running 60 gargoyle's lol. and I'm keeping the fexes, I might not always use them, but I feel like when we do get a new codex Carnifexen will be back with a vengeance.

Listen to Nid haters! Nids are not bad. They just require a little more effort. But, once you get good at them, you'll find no issues winning with them, and the victory is all the more sweeter when you make your opponent eat his words after he laughed at you for playing bugs.

My own issues aside ...

I am currently running a flyrant list with great success. I just played against a draigo paladin list and did very well against it.

I run:

HQ - WingedTyrant, OA, dakka, l/b

HQ - WingedTyrant, HC, dakka, l/b

elite - Hive Guard x 2

elite - Hive Guard x 2

elite - Doompod

troop - termagants x 10

troop - tervigon, ts, ag, cat

troop - genestealers x 8

troop - genestealers x 8

fast - gargoyles x 21

heavy - tyrannofex, rupture cannon

heavy - tryannofex, rupture cannon

I have had a lot of success with this list. There are thre staples you need to have in a Flyrant list. 1 is gargolyes, two is hive guard, and three is the doom of mal. Last game I played, he just destoryed those palidens. And drarigo himself took three wounds from the doom and was unable to kill him in one on one combat.

That's awesome, yeah I really want to have fun and convert up a DoM at some point. I need to get the Gargs first though.

I'd drop tyrant guard if you want a flyrant. I made that mistake, but I enjoy using a normal tyrant with tyrant guard and a flyrant as well. The tyrant guard slow flyrants down.

Well I don't plan on using Tyrant Guard in my flyrant list, I just have the models.

For a Flyrant/Fast Attack nids list, i'd say:

HQ
Flyrant - wings, devourer, parox, leech, OA
Parasite - Join Gargs

Elite
2x3/3x2 Hive Guard

Troops
2x10 Termagent
2x10 Tervigon, Cata, TS, AG

Fast Attack
20x Garg - AG, TS
20x Garg - AG, TS

Heavy Support
Trygon, AG
Trygon, AG


Basically, different creatures with different functions = different lists. The basic core-build (at the 2k pts range) evolves around having 2x10 Termagants, 2x Tervigons (always with AG/TS, as it's free buffs for your Gaunts) and either Cata/Ons depending on what other units you plan on fielding, and also a MINIMUM of 2x2 Hive Guards - 6 is perfeered (if you lack av support, you're going to have the time of your life against transports. You just don't wanna go there!).
- Catalyst heavily increases the survivability of your army, overall. With cover, it a double-save on your gargs, or alternatively, it allows for your Trygons to save against Missiles!
- Onslaught is more limited in use, as it's mainly for having a ever-moving army, that can keep shooting. Mainly you'd want it, if you field Carnies w/ Dual TL-Dev's or T-fexes.

@Gargs: I'd strongly recommend having AG/TS on them. It DOES increase their cost by +2 pts per model, yeah. But their usefullness is doubled on the charge.
- 5 ini means you'll strike first vs MEQ's.
- 4 str means that you, with Toxin, will gain rerolls on to-wound.
- With OA-flyrant within 6", you also reroll to-hit. That makes for alot of saves against the MEQ's!

So basically, the whole +2-pts-per-model means you'll be thinning out MEQ's chance to retaliate. With Parasite in the group, even more so!

I do not see room for Carnifexes in a Fast Attack list, however, as they're just too slow, compared to anything else in the list. But i'd rather see them fielded as a pair and both with dual-TL-devourer, joined by 2x Primes for would allocation. Makes for a hell of a Juggernaut group!

^ You can see my ideal flyrant list in the link in my first post. It looks pretty similar to what you just posted actually lol