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This came up today and utterly destroyed my army.

My SAG rolls double 1's and gets 5 inches for the blast radius. The blast covers a large part of my boyz mob(taking out the PK and the special weapons) and hits my battle wagon with a KFF and a mob of boyz in it.

Now the rule says that all models hit by the blast are removed from the game, but we were unsure of what that meant in terms of embarked units. We check the FAQ and it isn't covered, so we remove the wagon, the embarked boyz, the KFF, and the foot sloggers. I cry a little as 500 pts of my 1500 pt army is vaporized but I carry on. Dante, a furioso, and typhoons shred me by the top of 3.

The question is whether or not we played this right. I know that vortex grenades and the like will cause x penetrating hits on vehicles but does that also apply to this?

-cgmckenzie

Vortex grenades from Apoc just make the Vehicle and embarked unit go poof.

Looks like you played it right, it's how we play it at our store, and how I've always interp'd the rules

Damn, that was what I was afraid of. Thanks for the help.

-cgmckenzie

Seconded, any model means any model. If it's any consolation, it goes for double 6's too.

There is a ruling on this for the Mekboy Junka in an imperial armour books as it can have a shokk attack gun.

Yeah, I had a Big Mek embarked on a trukk with 11 shoota boyz. Rolled snake eyes and *POOF!* I removed the entire thing as a little green tear rolled down my face.

Glad I'm not the only one that has happened to. Only in my case it took out a mob of Lootas and a BW full of Nobs. Great thing about the Ork Dex. Never the same game twice even with the same list.

It's the tradeoff you get for a shoulder mounted, long range AP 2 Pieplate cannon.

Occasionally (or regularly) something goes badly wrong..

My ammo grot for my SAG is called 'oostun'

'oostun, we 'as a problim...'

The only thing I know of off the top of my head that comes close to this in the non-apoc FAQs comes out of the Space Wolf FAQ regarding the ability The Last Laugh, the FAQ states that if Lucas the Trickster is BtB to a transport vehicle when he is removed as a causality and the SW player wins the roll, Transport and any embarked unit are removed from the game.

If you measure to an embarked model, you measure to the hull of a vehicle. So all models in the embarked unit would have been within the 5" and thus removed.