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Having a bit of a disagreement with my local gaming group, I’m posting this question up to get some clairification.
I play Orks and I just want to know if this Tactic is Legal by the rules

I have a squad of 8 Burna Boyz equipet with Ork Burna’s (flamers) embarked inside of a Open Topped Transport. From inside the vehicle since it is an open topped vehicle I can fire with all 8 Burnas from inside the vehicle. I place the Template over an enemy squad and can cover 4 enemy models with the first template. They Auto Hit because it is a flamer template. Since all Fireing from a squad happens simultaneously, I can then place the next flamer template from the next Ork Burna over the same 4 enemy models and score 4 more auto hits. I can continue to do this with all 8 Orks inside the open topped vehicle, scoring a total of 32 Auto Hits. Then I would roll to wound, and that enemy unit would roll to save as usual.

Thank you in advance for your Help
Kenny

Perfectly legal, and also mandated by the template rules as you MUST cover as many as possible

Assuming you moved no more than 6" this is correct. If you move more than that they would have to disembark to fire.

Correct.

People HATE this tactic, because it is effective

It's completely legal though

Try it with a Battlewagon when you have an attached Big Mek so you have 16 burnas.
Hit five models (easily possible), get 80 hits.
My personal best is 144 hits on a unit of genestealers.

I've wiped out whole 30 strong mobs of Orks, units of TH/SS termies, etc.
Totally legal and very powerful.

marv335 wrote:Try it with a Battlewagon when you have an attached Big Mek so you have 16 burnas.
Hit five models (easily possible), get 80 hits.
My personal best is 144 hits on a unit of genestealers.

I've wiped out whole 30 strong mobs of Orks, units of TH/SS termies, etc.
Totally legal and very powerful.

And this is why you do not bunch when you see the burna's coming your way.

Tank shock = auto bunched

Good vs anyone deepstriking a little too close also, like big mobs of daemons..

Granted they'd have to be very close for it to work, but i've had it pay off well sometimes.

Running following DS helps, but if all you roll is 1''..

you did it corectly, one of my best games had a change with a maxed burna unit and a big mek with kff/burna to rbow 16 flamers into a bunch of gene steelers in terrain 9 hitsx 16 templates.. same scenarios as marv ironically. funny thing was rolling that many dice. I have 2 36 packs and for funsies borrowd 2 more bricks to accomplish it all in one big bucket roll

Try to make room for a Big Mek with KFF like other people have mentioned (makes the transport live alot longer) and you have yourself what my group likes to call the Burny Wagon

As everyone said, perfectly legal and very nasty. Makes one hell of a target, though; I recently faced such a unit (in a battle wagon with a Big Mek) and focused everything on them. Got lucky and destroyed the wagon, killed the Mek and all but a couple of the burnaz, and they still made a mess of a Chaos Marine squad...

That's actually a good reason not to put your bigmek with your burnaz. A burna wagon is scary and dangerous. But so is the nobz wagon, and the bigmek+boyz wagon. If he still shoots down your burnaz, at least you won't lose your KFF desupport at the same time.

True, the best use would we a couple dangerous wagons moving together with a Big Mek behind them with KFF and out of LoS

I absolutely love this tactic. I've even just used 5 man burna units riding with a big mekin a trukk to cruise around. I wasted 12 tac marines in 2 squads by tank shocking them in between two buildings and then flaming them. Then the termies behind the marines (which fell back which was hilarious to watch) wrecked the trukk. Burna boys then wasted the terminators in close combat. 75 point unit in a 40 point transport paid for themselves 3 times over that game.

about this tactic as well. if you give it red paint you can move 7 inches which is huge when it comes to hitting, but even better it makes them assault your vehicle on a 6+

I'm pretty sure anyway please correct more knowledgeble sages


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oh and also, I would not suggest putting a burna on the big mek. Just because it's point inneffective. chances are if you have 15 burnas you will kill the heck out of anything you touch. If you don't have 15 burnas, just buy another burna and save yourself 5 points

IIRC an Ork vehicle with Red Paint move 7inches is still combat speed so they are hit in assault on a 4+, page 63 of the BGB specifies speed names not movement distance to determine what you need to hit a vehicle in assault.

Yep, its still a 4+ - it only moved cruising speed.

No, it moved 7 inches but doesn't suffer any penalties from that extra inch(can't shoot while moving that fast). It doesn't change the fact that you still moved 7 inches, not 6, when factoring how far it moved for combat. But this is a topic for a different thread.

The "burnas in a vehicle" tactic is widely accepted and very dangerous for all the reasons mentioned above. I played against it once, had my blob dragged out around a building and found it taking 45+ save because a handful of guys got flamed.

-cgmckenzie

cgmckenzie wrote:No, it moved 7 inches but doesn't suffer any penalties from that extra inch(can't shoot while moving that fast). It doesn't change the fact that you still moved 7 inches, not 6, when factoring how far it moved for combat. But this is a topic for a different thread.

The "burnas in a vehicle" tactic is widely accepted and very dangerous for all the reasons mentioned above. I played against it once, had my blob dragged out around a building and found it taking 45+ save because a handful of guys got flamed.

-cgmckenzie

Good points, thanks for starting the other thread.

Flamers out of ork open topped trukks/wagons are amazing. Than again I've got no complaints about 19 shoota boyz blastin out of a wagon either.

Surely all eight templates touch your Trukk as well?

You ignore the vehicle you're shooting out of with template weapons At least i'm pretty sure that's what the FAQ said..

In any case you get to measure it from the hull on an open topped vehicle.. Anywhere on the hull

*edit for spelling*

ArbitorIan wrote:Surely all eight templates touch your Trukk as well?

GW Main Rules FAQ:

Q: If a model fires a template weapon out of a vehicle,
will the vehicle be hit if it is underneath the template?
(p66)
A: No it will not be hit.