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Hey Dakka,

I am looking for some help on this list. I have a friend coming to visit who plays Tau and we are planning on playing a couple of games while he's visiting. I know that Tau will eat a Mech Angels list so I am going for a DoA list

Let me know what can be improved

HQ:
Librarian w/ JP
FoD and Shield

Librarian w/ JP
UR and Shield

Elite:
Sang Priest x2 w/ JP's
LC x1

Sang Guard x5
PF and Chapter Banner

Troop:
Assault Squad x10
PF and 2x Meltagun

Assault Squad x10
PF and 2x Meltagun

Assault Squad x5
PF and Meltagun

Fast Attack:
VV x5
JP's/PW x4/ PF on Sgt./MB x1

VV x5
JP's/PW x3/ Plasma Pistol x2/MB x2

1750 pts exactly

I am taking the 2 plasma pistols in the second VV because they are the models that GW decided to cast.......I am planning on giving them MB for the initial Heroic Intervention charge.

so its 9 KP, 44 Models and 0 Mech. Basically it causes the Tau to waste AV on a single infantry model. I can DoA in and weather a turn of shooting and then multi assault his obvious castle.

Help me improve this list!

Thanks,

Falco

Drop the sanguinary guard. Take a honor guard instead. You can til them up almost the same and you get a built in priest

Its not really worth it IMO. The Honor guard have a worse armour save/lower leaderhip and even with stormbolters dont have as good of a shooting phase. I would rather keep the SG and just add a SP to them/close by to get the benefits. Plus kitting the HG out the same costs more.......

If i was going for all PG or MG on the Honor Guard it would be worth it though for sure.

You could add storm shields into the honor guard and have fnp. That's the main benefit. There tons of ap2 out there that requires invulnerable saves.

Coming from the Tau perspective, I would not be wasting AV shots since you have such a low model count. And as for the Vanguard, I can just keep everything in reserve and wait for you to fall down, then deep strike all my suits and roast your tiny squads. The only real threat is the two, ten-man assault squads and maybe the Sang priests.

Everything else will die from high rate-of-fire weapons or plasma rifles. Even broadsides would be effective against such low numbered squads.

rogueeyes wrote:You could add storm shields into the honor guard and have fnp. That's the main benefit. There tons of ap2 out there that requires invulnerable saves.

ah yes, very true! I did not think of that. That is a huge plus. I think that would work well.




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StormForged wrote:Coming from the Tau perspective, I would not be wasting AV shots since you have such a low model count. And as for the Vanguard, I can just keep everything in reserve and wait for you to fall down, then deep strike all my suits and roast your tiny squads. The only real threat is the two, ten-man assault squads and maybe the Sang priests.

Everything else will die from high rate-of-fire weapons or plasma rifles. Even broadsides would be effective against such low numbered squads.

I did not think that 44 guys at 1750 was a low model count.......

As for your reserves if i can win the roll off, i force you to go first and we have a turn of nothing and the game really starts on turn 2 at which point i have a better chance of getting more of my units in on reserve rolls than you. Then i can just wait for you to come in piece meal and i can pick you apart as your YOUR low model count units come in. If i go second i start everything on table and then get in your armies face faster with my whole 1750.

However, I guess it really depends on your Tau list if you are making these sort of blanket statements.

Thanks for the help with my Blood Angels list.

I'd combine the two VV squads into one, drop one libby and add a reclusiarch. He works wonders with a VV squad. I'm also not entirely sold on the SG squad, I just don't think they're that amazing at 200 points.

Edit: Oh you're playing Tau? Missed that part. No reason for spending a lot of points on VV and SG squads, regular assault squads do the job just fine.

You can't use heroic intervention with av attached character. Also vv that can charge on the deep strike would force me to bible wrap tanks or broadsides if I was playing Tau. Usually you get shots before assault. The that of not having that is huge.

Well yeah, you wouldn't be able to do it on the first turn they come in, but from there on the support functions on him are great for VV.

rogueeyes wrote:You can't use heroic intervention with av attached character. Also vv that can charge on the deep strike would force me to bible wrap tanks or broadsides if I was playing Tau. Usually you get shots before assault. The that of not having that is huge.

QTF, but I dont plan on attaching an IC to the VV squads. The SP and Libby's will be with the ASM squads. Sorry, I should have pointed that out.....




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Stoffer wrote:I'd combine the two VV squads into one, drop one libby and add a reclusiarch. He works wonders with a VV squad. I'm also not entirely sold on the SG squad, I just don't think they're that amazing at 200 points.

Edit: Oh you're playing Tau? Missed that part. No reason for spending a lot of points on VV and SG squads, regular assault squads do the job just fine.

I was considering dropping the SG for a 3rd 10 man ASM with PF and Flamers.

It does make sense to make the 2 VV squads one and just Combat Squad them.....saves 15 pts overall.