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I was wondering this, while looking through the GK codex. How much leeway are inquisitors given in how they do their business? I ask because I wonder at the validity of a Inquisition henchmen force using a good deal of Eldar, Dark Eldar, and Tau arms and armor but with abit of a human stint (like human heads and what not)

Warlock Psychers, Wych Assassins, Fire Warrior warrior acolytes etc... henchmen forces deal alot with making x into y for your own purpose, but I wonder if this would take it to far.

Xenos Inqusitors usually have a fair amount of leeway since Xenos aren't as corrupting as Deaemons or Psykers...
Hereticus and Malleus have little leeway. There is practically no grey area inbetween Radicul and Puritan though depending on what view you use there is lots of grey so go figure...
But for Ordo Xenos you can do pretty much anything and you'll be fine... though there are limits.

Go for it. I like the idea of xeno inquistors using alien allies to control enemies of the Imperium.

Speaking on alien allies, what sorts would ally with an inquisitor?

Tau I imagine would, the renegade Tau commander is proof enough that all it takes is moving far enough away from an Ethereal to gain some semblance of autonomy.

Dark Eldar, well, they would essentially fall in the "Mercenaries only" domain, wouldn't they? They aren't going to exactly ally with anyone but themselves.

Eldar, I don't know. Would any Eldar leave their Craftworld/Exodite colony to join up with an inquisitor given the opprotunity?

Only leaves Necrons (or mind controlled Tyranid I suppose, but I can't help but see that as "LOL MIND CONTROLLED TYRANIDS) which, judging from the bits of backstory I've seen, may actually work (deathmark necrons with lychguard shields as counts as crusaders, neat).

My original intent was just using xenos tech, but Inquisitors do on a person to person basis have their own standing armies and the ability to wipe out entire planets, so aliens for henchmens isn't a stretch.

Eldar and Tau, maybe even Orks, could probably work. Dark Eldar . . . perhaps as mercenaries? But generally, aren't the wych cults rather central to the DE lifestyle, and hence unlikely to separate from their kin to such a degree?

Per old fluff, there were inquisitors that had struck up alliances with Eldar, at least enough to be allowed into the Black Library.

It's an excellent idea, Namica - so good I might just have to steal it! Craftworld or Corsair Eldar would both make plausible allies, as would Tau. Orks or (at a push) Dark Eldar would make plausible mercenaries. I don't really see Necrons or Tyranids working, however.

Accually, I think Orks would work as full fledged allies. All backstory wise would be needed is them seeing an inquisitor blowing up an Ork WAAAAAAAAAGH! in an exterminatus. The Ork cries, a single tear falls, and he mutters "Dats dah most bootiful ting I've evah seen."

Namica wrote:Speaking on alien allies, what sorts would ally with an inquisitor?

Tau I imagine would, the renegade Tau commander is proof enough that all it takes is moving far enough away from an Ethereal to gain some semblance of autonomy.

Dark Eldar, well, they would essentially fall in the "Mercenaries only" domain, wouldn't they? They aren't going to exactly ally with anyone but themselves.

Eldar, I don't know. Would any Eldar leave their Craftworld/Exodite colony to join up with an inquisitor given the opprotunity?

Only leaves Necrons (or mind controlled Tyranid I suppose, but I can't help but see that as "LOL MIND CONTROLLED TYRANIDS) which, judging from the bits of backstory I've seen, may actually work (deathmark necrons with lychguard shields as counts as crusaders, neat).

My original intent was just using xenos tech, but Inquisitors do on a person to person basis have their own standing armies and the ability to wipe out entire planets, so aliens for henchmens isn't a stretch.

Forget renegade tau, Loyal tau would be more likely. Tau renegades tend to be renegades because they don't like other spices and want to take the kill them all approach.

if your willing to pay your dark eldar well, they should be semi loyal followers that creep you out.

Someone mentioned that there is a pre standing alliance between the inquisition and a craft world.

You can't really hack necrons, but the necrons are getting new fluff so a opportunity might open up.

I think I heard about a tournament where they had an inquisitor who was implanting control chips into nids. After a hive fleet leaves, you could always just pick up one of the feral nids and slap a collar on it. Maybe dig out the par of it's brain that responds to the hive mind. You are a inquisitor after all.

What could be what



Arco-Flaggelent: Mind Controlled Genestealer, DE construct (like a small grotesque), Maybe even an Ork.

Death Cult Assassins: Eldar or Dark Eldar (Banshees, Wyches, or maybe incubi)

Crusaders: Demurig would probably tend to be armored up. Maybe Kroot? (just pick an alien race and give him a shield)

Jokaero: As is of course

Psykers: Eldar Warlocks

Servitors: Refurbished Necrons

Warrior Acolytes: Tau Fire Warriors, Eldar Guardians.


Vindicare Assassin: Eldar Ranger

Yeah, the Flaggelent can essentially be anything that could be considered a "berserker" or at least lightly armored and assault-e. Banshee's could work, as could various Orcs, Dark Eldar, and Kroot.

I'll look more into the Eldar pack thing. I think I may scrap my Dark Eldar army idea for this (I'm a highly indecisive person, so an army that uses just about whatever I want model wise is appealing)

Question

What should be used as counts as dreadnaughts? Transport is just same ol' Rhinos and what not, but dreadnaughts don't belong to inquisitors.


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When I get the chance I think I'm going to go over all the various xenos races and put them into categories based on what they could be used as.

Likely tomorrow evening.

Leeway? Flexibility? Permission?

The Inquisition cares not for these terms.

An Inquisitor has as much of this as they want. They answer only unto their peers. No one else in the Imperium, short of the God-Emperor, can question an Inquisitor.

So you're an Ordo Xeno Inquisitor and have Radical leanings. Go ahead, recruit a Kabal to be your personal bodyguard. You have a bargain struck with a Tau cadre? Deploy them and their battlesuits to crush another xeno threat... or a rival.

Got your hands on a truck full of Eldar mesh armor and shuriken rifles? Give them to your underlings. Outfit your human mercenaries with them. Any who question them, question you, and your authority trumps theirs.

Many may call you Radical, some may even call you Heretic. Until the Conclave calls you Excommunicatus Traitoris, however, you are free to enact your inquiries and persecutions as you see fit.

This is all bringing back the army ideas from my RT Era days.

i was actually planning to use my dire avengers as guardians to be used as warrior acolytes but i can see howling banshees as death cult assasins or dark reapers as servitors with heavy weapons.

There are also harlequins obviously.

for dreadnought why not an eldar warwalker or wraithlord, hell maybe even the avatar?.

Oh and people call each other Excommunicatus Traitoris all the time, it is not that big of a deal if you have your own contacts as an inquisitor.

Oh and people call each other Excommunicatus Traitoris all the time, it is not that big of a deal if you have your own contacts as an inquisitor.

Yes, but when an Inquisitorial Conclave does it, it's for real. Your rosette gets yanked, you're no longer an Inquisitor, and all the resources the Inquisition can muster are tasked with ending your life.

pizzaguardian wrote:i was actually planning to use my dire avengers as guardians to be used as warrior acolytes but i can see howling banshees as death cult assasins or dark reapers as servitors with heavy weapons.

There are also harlequins obviously.

for dreadnought why not an eldar warwalker or wraithlord, hell maybe even the avatar?.

Oh and people call each other Excommunicatus Traitoris all the time, it is not that big of a deal if you have your own contacts as an inquisitor.

Trying to at least stay somewhat within' fluff, and a wraithlord is -flat out- since it's the undead souls of the departed eldar. No way in hell it would even work for a inquisitor. Same with Avatar (but on a much larger scale)

The walker would work though.

actually on the grander scale of things wraithlord is somewhat possible, altough i admit that possiblity is not that much.

Maybe a wraithguard? Oh they actually would work really well as multimelta servitors. Yeah i liked that idea

Here is what I have, trying to stay within lore, which mainly effects Dark Eldar and Eldar who aren't going to part with their most sacred of things, like their dead or leadership.

Ordo Xenos Army List

Arco-Flagellant: Important aspect: Berserk, no range, melee only, lightly/no armored.
Dark Eldar: Incubi, Wych
Eldar: Banshee
Ork: Any none-range Ork
Tau: Kroot

Crusader: Important aspect: Shield and power weapon.
Death Watch: Marines with Thundershield
Other: I'm open, can't think of much aside from taking fellows from the other areas and gluing a shield to their arms.

Death Cult Assassin: Important aspect: Same as Flagellant, though more of an assassin ascetic as well as two weapons.
Dark Eldar: Wych
Eldar: Striking Scorpion, Banshee
Ork: Any none-range Ork
Tau: Kroot

Servitor: Important Aspect: Machine, android, robot etc...
Ork: Big Mek, any Cybork
Tau: Drone
Death Watch: Tech Marine

Jokaero: Fine as is.

Mystic/Psyker: Important Aspect: Being a Psyker
Eldar: Farseer/Warlock
Ork: Weirdboy
Death Watch: Librarian

Warrior Acolyte: Important Aspect to many to count. Generally soldiers.
Dark Eldar: Sslyth, Kabalite Warrior, Harlequin
Eldar: Fire Dragon, Guadian, Dire Avenger, Dark Reaper
Ork: Any frickin' Ork not already mentioned.
Tau: Fire Warriors, Pathfingers, Vespid, Kroot, Drones
Death Watch: Most none-terminator Space Marines

Asssassins:
Vindicare: Eldar Ranger, sniper drone squad, one drone on same base as Tau.
Eversor: Inucbi
Culexus: No blanks in other armies
Callidus: Rules to specific for counts as.


Dreadnaughts: Important Aspect: Walker
Eldar: Warwalker
Ork: Killa Kan, Deff Dread
Tau: Broadside, Battlesuit
Death Watch: Death Watch Dread

All vehicles useable.

You can go nuts with the orks if you choose and are careful about it. I've even seen legitimate suggestions for an ork "counts as space marines" army, and someone mentioned that there was even an old WD article that suggested the idea. The orks in question would have presumably been suitably impressed by the fighting prowess of the beakies. And iirc, the WD article supposedly mentioned that the orks followed the Emp'rah because "... he's da biggest and da baddest warboss of dem all!"

What the Space Marines would think of all of that is, of course, probably best left unstated...

Blood Axe orks are renowned mercenaries...

Yeah, Ordo Xenos seems to be a little more relaxed in dealing with aliens;Tau, Eldar, Kroot, really any of the 'freindly' xenos races, even Orks to an extent. Tyranids, Hurd and Old Necrons were seen as too alien to deal with and those who did were carefully watched. The IoM seems to make use of a lot of xenos tech either way.

Any suggestions for Crusaders? I'll need a few to protect my flaggelents and death cultists.

If you want to stay fluffy, I would suggest staying away from Eldar Aspect Warriors, as warriors are really only part of craftworlds, and aren't even going to be warriors forever. You could always just say they had an alliance with said craftworld, but things just get more difficult.

Personally, I loved your first idea more. Take a bunch of imperial guardsmen maybe, or something else along those lines, and outfit their weapons with xenos tech (Pulse rifles, shurken catapults, power klaws, etc). Could make for quite a site, and give you a truely unique feeling army.

Amanax wrote:If you want to stay fluffy, I would suggest staying away from Eldar Aspect Warriors, as warriors are really only part of craftworlds, and aren't even going to be warriors forever. You could always just say they had an alliance with said craftworld, but things just get more difficult.

Personally, I loved your first idea more. Take a bunch of imperial guardsmen maybe, or something else along those lines, and outfit their weapons with xenos tech (Pulse rifles, shurken catapults, power klaws, etc). Could make for quite a site, and give you a truely unique feeling army.

It would also be alot more expensive!

Also, nothing says how long they stay to a warrior path (could be countless human generations), nor do they say that outcasts always put away their learnings as a warrior. Plenty of room for Eldar aspect warriors.

I mainly chose the first idea because I thought that relying heavily on xenos mercenaries and contracts would be silly, but then, Inquisitors can do whatever the feth they want.