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Alright quick question to settle friendly dispute....

Ok so say i choose to fire my hive guard and 15 dev gaunts at the transport and i drop a transport like destroy it with the hive guard... are the dev gaunts shots wasted? or do i fire into the troops who just hopped out

also just to clarify during shooting all units pick their targets then fire correct? so technically i couldnt fire into the troop even if the transport was destroyed in the same firing turn right?

Any thoughts?

You're playing wrong.

You select the targets 1 unit at a time, in some cases a single unit picks more.

Than you progress to the second unit.

If unit 1 destroyed the APC than unit 2 can shoot the troops assuming the are in range and can see them.

Awesome thank you. Cause thats how i wanted to play it and i never understood why not, but my buddy argues no everyone shoots at the same time... so this helps me out dramatically. thank you very much. Just for clarification what page in the rule book indicates this?

Everyone in one UNIT shoots at the same time, but not the whole army.

See "the shooting sequence", then the top of page 15 where it says you go through the sequence for each unit.

awesome thank you as well. SO JUST TO CLARIFY

say my hive guard dropped a transport
my dev gaunts could then clean up the troops that were inside on the same shooting phase?

Shadowmyth515 wrote:awesome thank you as well. SO JUST TO CLARIFY

say my hive guard dropped a transport
my dev gaunts could then clean up the troops that were inside on the same shooting phase?

Absolutely, as long as they are in range and have LoS on the squad.

YEs. You declare target, rolll to hit, to wound, etc with one unit. Once finished you move on to the next unit, and repeat that all again.

Epic. Thank you. because i was worried about how difficult it would be to drop DE if the troops inside APCs had a turn of free safety. thank you much.

Just to reinforce, cause I know how buddies can be, this is not some debatable or optional or rarely used process.

I've played in several clubs, FLGS, tournaments... everybody everywhere plays one unit shoots at a time, no need to call shots for all unit ahead of time.

This is as fundamental as using the BS to shoot and the WS to assault.

Its actually explicit in the rules - picking a target is step 1, and youre told to repeat the steps for each unit. This explicitly denies you any option to declare for every unit initially.

Ok maybe im greedy here... but uh... say my trygon prime drops a venom with its shooting... and is in range to assault... Do i get to assault the troops that were inside said destroyed venom? I shot at the venom... not at its troops and i have to assault the same thing i shot at.... but are the troops part of the venom.. or rather the venom a part of the troop?

Yes, the rules for transports specify that as allowed.

Editing to add:
Not because the units are related.

They are still different units.

Epic thank you as well

Page 67, main rules.

Check the "Note" on the right.

thank you, I shall when i get home.

Shadowmyth515 wrote:but my buddy argues no everyone shoots at the same time

IIRC you did that in 2nd edition but that was like 15 years ago, but now things are alot different and a bit simplified in order to make the game run smoother and faster. As the others have said, pick targets 1 firing unit at a time, if transport is destroyed the unit may be assaulted as kirsanth pointed out.

Saiisil wrote:IIRC you did that in 2nd edition but that was like 15 years ago,

A fair few people did, but it was not actually required by the rules. It might have been a holdover from RT, or just people getting confused by the fact that you did have to declare all of your assaults before moving anyone..