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Regular Dakkanaut





I've never had this come up before, but I was playing against BA's with my sisters yesterday. His bike squad which was 3 puds an attack bike and a sarge were joined by his chaplain and priest also on bikes. During my shooting phase I put enough meltas into the squad to have killed everything but the priest and chaplain (chap only having 1 wound left from bolters). My question is are they still a squad since 2 IC's can't become a squad. They were about 8 inches apart from being on opposite ends of the squad when it got wiped out. If they weren't a squad when does it happen that they break apart? Would the priest lose fearless during that shooting phase and thus have to leadership check. Or would it hold until we move to the next phase as if they were still a squad.
   
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Proud Phantom Titan







IC can only leave a unit at the end of their movement phase. Till then they would be a single unit.
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





But 2 IC's can never be a unit and the unit they were joined to no longer exists
   
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Proud Phantom Titan







icefire78 wrote:But 2 IC's can never be a unit and the unit they were joined to no longer exists
Actually 2+ IC can join together to form super units

Independent characters are allowed to join other
units. They cannot. however, join vehicle squadrons
(see the Vehicles section) and units that always
consist of a single model (like most vehicles and
monstrous creatures). They can join other
independent characters though, to form a powerful
multi-character unit!
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut






Springfield, VA

Why can't they be a single unit?
   
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Regular Dakkanaut





I guess I was confused by that IC's can't join a unit that always consists of a single model. IC's aren't a unit is where I messed up the wording. Thanks, this will make it better next time since I can wipe the priest and chap out in the shooting phase next time.
   
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Making Stuff






Under the couch

icefire78 wrote:I guess I was confused by that IC's can't join a unit that always consists of a single model. IC's aren't a unit is where I messed up the wording.

No, IC's most certainly are a unit.

But they are given explicit permission by the IC rules to join and be joined by other ICs.

 
   
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope





Chicago, IL

The "They can join other independent characters though, to form a powerful multi-character unit!" from the rules in not needed.

Since we know IC's can join units and they become a normal member of that unit whilst they are joined, so they can never be considered a "units that always consist of a single model" because we know that to be untrue.

They probably put the "They can join other independent characters though, to form a powerful multi-character unit!" in there for clarity.

But IC's on their own are a unit unto themselves, as others have said.

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The trouble is that the IC is joining somebody else's unit instead of them joining his unit. Therefore except when two or more ICs join together it could easily be argued that an IC is a unit that always consists of a single model.

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