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What do crone worlds look like? Do any eldar sill live on them and would they still be in a condition to be called eldar? Would pre-fall buildings still exist? How has the warp warped things?

I've read that there are still some Eldar on the crone worlds. Apparently, they're the least lucky of all the Eldar, including the ones whose heads simply exploded during the Fall.

More details of their fate, I do not think exist.

Crone Worlds purportedly still have Eldar structures on them, at least some of the crone worlds do, though I am doubtful many are more than ruins.

Chaos is Chaos. Anything could have happened to a crone world. In fact, I'm sure they have quite a few divergent though equally crappy fates.

Here's an example of a fun Crone World:

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/World_of_Immortal_Sorrows#.TrNmmkMUqdA

Doesn't seem like a very fun place to be right now though....

While 2nd Edition Codex was unsure about Eldar living there, since 3rd edition GW is explicit that no Eldar survived on the Crone Worlds during the Fall. There may be short expeditions later to search for soulstones, but certainly no Eldar can live in the warp without being eaten by daemons.

Are chaos elder still canon? They lived on crone worlds in 2nd edition?

Chaos Eldar are neither a big gun nor canon currently. 2nd edition Codex had one sentence saying there might be Eldar on Crone Worlds plus another cryptic statement on Arhra, but 3rd edition Eldar Codex makes clear crone worlds are empty, 5th edition DE Codex made clear Arhra came back uncorrupted.

Kroothawk wrote:While 2nd Edition Codex was unsure about Eldar living there, since 3rd edition GW is explicit that no Eldar survived on the Crone Worlds during the Fall. There may be short expeditions later to search for soulstones, but certainly no Eldar can live in the warp without being eaten by daemons.

Which source(s) states explicitly that no eldar survived on the crone worlds?

Spoiler from Aurelian, you have been warned.

Ulthanashville wrote:Which source(s) states explicitly that no eldar survived on the crone worlds?

Codex Eldar. The bit about the Fall, where everyone was instantly killed in range.

Kroothawk wrote:

Ulthanashville wrote:Which source(s) states explicitly that no eldar survived on the crone worlds?

Codex Eldar. The bit about the Fall, where everyone was instantly killed in range.

Heh, of course it's Codex VS BL books - but in "Atlas Infernal" there were mutated but not Chaos-worshipping Eldars on the chaotic world in Eye of Chaos who traded with CEs' Rangers in "self-excavated" pre-Fall artifacts.

chyron wrote:Heh, of course it's Codex VS BL books - but in "Atlas Infernal" there were mutated but not Chaos-worshipping Eldars on the chaotic world in Eye of Chaos who traded with CEs' Rangers in "self-excavated" pre-Fall artifacts.

CS Goto has a fat child molesting drooling Eldar Farseer and his Slaanesh worshipping council lead a craftworld. And Lilith, Eldrad, the female leader of Ulthwé Farseer council and every second Eldar in his novels are worshipping Slaanesh for Christ's sake (the other half is slaughtered). That is just a proof that editors have to work harder, not that such things are part of the 40k background.

Kroothawk wrote:

chyron wrote:Heh, of course it's Codex VS BL books - but in "Atlas Infernal" there were mutated but not Chaos-worshipping Eldars on the chaotic world in Eye of Chaos who traded with CEs' Rangers in "self-excavated" pre-Fall artifacts.

CS Goto has a fat child molesting drooling Eldar Farseer and his Slaanesh worshipping council lead a craftworld. And Lilith, Eldrad, the female leader of Ulthwé Farseer council and every second Eldar in his novels are worshipping Slaanesh for Christ's sake (the other half is slaughtered). That is just a proof that editors have to work harder, not that such things are part of the 40k background.

Er... What does Atlas Infernal have to do with C.S. Goto?

On another note, the Eldar success during the Eye of Terror campaign apparently did more than get Eldrad disappeared. There was also some stuff about a successful Eldar expedition to one of the Crone Worlds, iirc.

Eumerin wrote:Er... What does Atlas Infernal have to do with C.S. Goto?

On another note, the Eldar success during the Eye of Terror campaign apparently did more than get Eldrad disappeared. There was also some stuff about a successful Eldar expedition to one of the Crone Worlds, iirc.

1.) Both are BL publications, where fluff control is less strict than in GW publications.
2.) I mentioned expeditions, but it does not qualify for "living there". BTW the old novel "Farseer" features such an expedition with old Eldar buildings still present.

Codex Eye of Terror describes Belial as one of the early Eldar homeworlds now lifeless.

IMO Eldar like any other mortal can still turn to and be corrupted by Chaos.... there is likely both Chaos Champions in the Eye and beyond which were once Eldar Occassionally in "modern times", a Eldar will fall again - through hatred, dispair or some other reason.

Unlike all other mortals, Eldar souls are reknown for being the most delicious snack in the warp. So every daemon entity is eager to eat them, not train them.
And let's not forget that the whole Eldar race is totally aware of the chaos threat and trained from childhood to fear this threat. Craftworld Eldar have soul stones and strict paths to counter chaos corruption/being eaten.

Didn't say it was common - just not impossible.

Dameons could be perverse enough to corrupt an Eldar rather than devour their soul and the Path is not total protection, especially if it stopped Slaanesh from having it.

Kroothawk wrote:

Eumerin wrote:Er... What does Atlas Infernal have to do with C.S. Goto?

On another note, the Eldar success during the Eye of Terror campaign apparently did more than get Eldrad disappeared. There was also some stuff about a successful Eldar expedition to one of the Crone Worlds, iirc.

1.) Both are BL publications, where fluff control is less strict than in GW publications.
2.) I mentioned expeditions, but it does not qualify for "living there". BTW the old novel "Farseer" features such an expedition with old Eldar buildings still present.

Whatever your opinions of 'Atlas Infernal' (I quite enjoyed it, though I can appreciate how not everybody would) it's a little unkind to tarnish it by association with Goto's stuff - regardless of one's opinion of the novel's relative merit, it's really not in that category of awfulness.

Craftworld Altansar popped out of the Eye of Terror after an absence of 10,000 years in Imperial [and Eldar] records.

Unfortunately (although for probably good reason), all others are averse to them.

Soladrin wrote:Spoiler from Aurelian, you have been warned.

Spoiler:

Lorgar visits a croneworld in the Eye.. All that's left on it is a stranded craftworld with an entombed and near death Avatar of Khaine (his molten features almost all turned black and such)

Source?

The spoiler from Aurelian is from Aurelian:
http://www.blacklibrary.com/aurelian.html

Kroothawk wrote:

Eumerin wrote:Er... What does Atlas Infernal have to do with C.S. Goto?

On another note, the Eldar success during the Eye of Terror campaign apparently did more than get Eldrad disappeared. There was also some stuff about a successful Eldar expedition to one of the Crone Worlds, iirc.

1.) Both are BL publications, where fluff control is less strict than in GW publications.
2.) I mentioned expeditions, but it does not qualify for "living there". BTW the old novel "Farseer" features such an expedition with old Eldar buildings still present.

Yeah, but you didn't mention Black Library. You specifically brought up C.S. Goto. Your comment strongly implies that Atlas Infernal was written by Goto.

Craftworld Altansar popped out of the Eye of Terror after an absence of 10,000 years in Imperial [and Eldar] records.

It wasn't the only Craftworld caught in the Eye, and may very well not be the only one that was still hanging on 10,000 years later. Unfortunately for any other survivors, being caught in the Eye appears to be somewhat similar to being caught on the edge of a singularity. You may not be dead yet, but the rest of your life will likely be spent looking out into space watching as you slowly spiral into the center.

To be fair, I had no knowledge concerning Atlas Infernal and I assumed by way of the comments that C.S. Goto was the author.