Death Rolla VS Walker 'Death or Glory'

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**Sir Harry Flashman, VC**

Hi,
If a Battlewagon rams a walker but the walker performs a death or glory attack and Destroys (6+ damage roll) the offending wagon does it still get hit by the Deathrollas Strengh 10 hits?

**Akroma06**

Q. Can you use the deff rolla when Ramming vehicles
or does it only work when Tank Shocking non-vehicle
units? (p55)
A. The death rolla does indeed inflict D6 S10 hits
against vehicles, as Ramming is just a type of Tank
Shock.

Q. Does a unit that successfully stops a deff rollaequipped
Battlewagon’s Tank Shock suffer any hits?
(p55)
A. Yes, it does. In fact, it suffers 2D6 S10 hits!

With these two FAQs, from GWs site (pg 3 right hand column) I can safely say yes it will still inflict 2d6 S10 hits on the walker.

**MrMerlin**

why not? it says the dog-unit gets another d6 S10 attacs IMMEDIATELY

**nosferatu1001**

Sir Harry Flashman, VC wrote:Hi,
If a Battlewagon rams a walker but the walker performs a death or glory attack and Destroys (6+ damage roll) the offending wagon does it still get hit by the Deathrollas Strengh 10 hits?

Yes. Death or Glory has no effect on whether you get hit by the D6 or, in this case 2D6 S10 hits.

**jdjamesdean@mail.com**

Yep 2d6 Str 10 hits

**Jaguar**

Could the vehicle get a cover save from the MG on the dread? If the vehicle has a big mek with KFF, does it get a cover save? Death of glory says you auto hit, it does not say you do not get a save.

**nosferatu1001**

MG?

In theory you get cover saves from Deff Rollas, as they are not a close combat attack

If you are performing DoG against a deffrolla BW which has a KFF mek on board, then you would get cover saves against shooting (from memory) DoG, but not close combat DoG

**marv335**

Amusingly, if the walker doesn't stop the battlewagon, it takes the 2D6 hits on the rear armour

**Pied_Piper11**

It does not matter if he stops it or not, he takes 2d6 Str10 hits.

**Akroma06**

I think his point was that it was rear armor.

**don_mondo**

marv335 wrote:Amusingly, if the walker doesn't stop the battlewagon, it takes the 2D6 hits on the rear armour

Only if you are in the rear arc of the walker. Ramming hits are resolved on the armor facing that the ram impacts, and I would assume the same for Deffrolla hits. Or you can claim that they are close combat attacks in which case they are always against the front armor................

**Kommissar Kel**

don_mondo wrote:
marv335 wrote:Amusingly, if the walker doesn't stop the battlewagon, it takes the 2D6 hits on the rear armour

Only if you are in the rear arc of the walker. Ramming hits are resolved on the armor facing that the ram impacts, and I would assume the same for Deffrolla hits. Or you can claim that they are close combat attacks in which case they are always against the front armor................

No marv is correct; you may want to re-read the last paragraph of "Ramming a Walker" on page 73 of the brb: it a Walker chooses to "Death or glory", and fails to stop the ramming tank; it is hit on rear armor(as it is not "ready for the impact").

If the walker does stop the Ram; it still takes 2d6 S10 to whatever arc was rammed.

You cannot claim they are close combat attacks at all, because they are not; they are ram, and Deff rolla attacks, respectively.

**don_mondo**

My mistake.