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So I was browsing different armies for 40k and thought I'd look at choas marines. This lead me to Choas Demons and then I remembered they were in fantasy too. I brought them up side by side and mostly the same units so if I build an army of them would I be able to play both gaems with them. So there would be a few that won't work but mostly am I right? and how close do they play?

Apparently Daemons almost killed WHFB with their last codex. I'd imagine you could use most of the same units. There's a thread somewhere about whether you can use square bases in 40k. If you can, you could use the army on square bases for both.

If not, you can go the complicated route and do what someone in my FLGS did - mangetize all your models' feet and switch out the bases. IIRC Chaos Daemons units come with both bases in a box, since they are present in both games.

I believe that you are allowed to use square bases when it comes to demons.

Chaos Daemons, with the exception of things like the Soul Grinder, are completely dual purpose. So yes, you can have one army that works for both systems, and yes, square bases are legal in 40K, if you don't want to worry about swapping bases.

Durza wrote:Apparently Daemons almost killed WHFB with their last codex. I'd imagine you could use most of the same units. There's a thread somewhere about whether you can use square bases in 40k. If you can, you could use the army on square bases for both.

Indeed, it was agreed in the other thread that square bases are fine, and round bases are just more aesthetic for squad based games.

Durza wrote:Apparently Daemons almost killed WHFB with their last codex. I'd imagine you could use most of the same units. There's a thread somewhere about whether you can use square bases in 40k. If you can, you could use the army on square bases for both.

How did it almost kill it? Is it uber powerful broken or just nerdrage fuel of epic proportions?

As long as you use the base provided in the box, and as long as the base is up to date, you'll be fine.

As for Daemons in 7th, from what I heard the book was utterly broken and steamrolled everything. We're talking so bad that in 1000 pt tournies they would make daemon players only use 750 or some such.

Uelrindru wrote:

Durza wrote:Apparently Daemons almost killed WHFB with their last codex. I'd imagine you could use most of the same units. There's a thread somewhere about whether you can use square bases in 40k. If you can, you could use the army on square bases for both.

How did it almost kill it? Is it uber powerful broken or just nerdrage fuel of epic proportions?

They made the competitive enviroment for 7th edition almost pointless to play in unless you were a Daemon player.

The army was very point and click, just point in the general direction of the enemy and you had a very good chance of winning. An experienced Fantesy player would be literally unstoppable with Daemons.


8th edition has toned them down considerably and everyone else can compete again.

hmm... I like the models so I might have to check it out, I'll just go slow to avoid the ire of the local gamers

Grey Templar wrote:

Uelrindru wrote:

Durza wrote:Apparently Daemons almost killed WHFB with their last codex. I'd imagine you could use most of the same units. There's a thread somewhere about whether you can use square bases in 40k. If you can, you could use the army on square bases for both.

How did it almost kill it? Is it uber powerful broken or just nerdrage fuel of epic proportions?

They made the competitive enviroment for 7th edition almost pointless to play in unless you were a Daemon player.

The army was very point and click, just point in the general direction of the enemy and you had a very good chance of winning. An experienced Fantesy player would be literally unstoppable with Daemons.


8th edition has toned them down considerably and everyone else can compete again.

What made them so OP?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

Uelrindru wrote:

Durza wrote:Apparently Daemons almost killed WHFB with their last codex. I'd imagine you could use most of the same units. There's a thread somewhere about whether you can use square bases in 40k. If you can, you could use the army on square bases for both.

How did it almost kill it? Is it uber powerful broken or just nerdrage fuel of epic proportions?

They made the competitive enviroment for 7th edition almost pointless to play in unless you were a Daemon player.

The army was very point and click, just point in the general direction of the enemy and you had a very good chance of winning. An experienced Fantesy player would be literally unstoppable with Daemons.


8th edition has toned them down considerably and everyone else can compete again.

What made them so OP?

Being under priced mostly with everything. Almost no drawbacks to their units.