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So I have put together the below lists to fight friends GK and DA armies.

I'd welcome some feedback as they are my first lists. I'm very new to the codex (back to the game after ten years) so keen to know of any hidden gems I may have missed as a bit of a noob.

No.1 is a fairly versatile list with a mix of everything in it but I worry a bit jack of all trades?

Grand Master Mordrak = 200

Elites
Grey Knight Purifier Squad, Psybolt Ammo with Incinirator 120+20 Total = 140

Troops
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo Total = 245 (With Land Raider)

Fast Attack 
Interceptor Squad Demon Hammer and Psycannon and Psybolt ammo 130+10+10+20 Total = 170 
 
Heavy Support
Land Raider Crusader with  Psybolt Ammo  255+5 Total = 260

Purgation Squad 4x Psycannons 100+20x4= 180

Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Psycannon and Powersword 130+40+25 Total = 195 

Dreadnaught with Assault Cannon/Autocannon and Psybolt ammo Total = 115+10+5 Total = 130

Total = 1,500

No.2 Or a more heavy hitting force due to two DKs and an extra squad of Terminators. I like this set up as the duplication of units makes it harder for an opponent to focus on a specific aspect. But a smaller force.

Grand Master Mordrak = 200
 
Troops
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo 3x Nemisis Halbreds, 1x Nemisis Force Sword and 1x Nemisis Thunder hammer Total = 245
 
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo  3x Nemisis Halbreds, 1x Nemisis Force Sword and 1x Nemisis Thunder hammerTotal = 245
 
Heavy Support
Purgation Squad 4x Psycannon 100+20x4= 180
 
Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Psycannon and  Powersword with Interceptor 130+40+25Total = 195
 
Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Psycannon and Hammer 130+10+40 Total = 180

Land Raider Crusader = 255

In both armies I considered swapping Mordrak for Inquisitor Corteaz and a squad of 8 henchmen 

Again, be great to know thoughs and opinions. 

List No.1 does not have two troop choices; the list is not fit to be used in a tourney. Honestly, I would rather corteaz or just a normal librarian for the GKs.

List 2 has one too many Heavy Support choices.

Ah, so neither is valid, how about the following?

HQ 
Inquisitor Coteaz = 100

Elites 
Grey Knight Purifier Squad including two Force Halbreds, with Incinirator and Psycannon 120+10+4 Total = 134

Grey Knight Purifier Squad including two Force Halbreds, with Incinirator and Psycannon 120+10+4 Total = 134
 
Troops
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo Total = 245
 
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo Total = 245

Inquisitorial henchman with Lasguns, Melta bombs and a flamer in Carapace Armour 32+32+10+5 Total = 79
 
Fast Attack
Interceptor Squad Demon Hammer and Psycannon and Psybolt ammo 130+10+10+20 Total = 170
 
Heavy Support
Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Psycannon and  Powersword 130+40+25 Total = 195
 
Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Psycannon and Hammer 130+10+40 Total = 180

If you take Corteaz I'd suggest a Chimara and taking 3 melta's henchmen.

Also Dreads are not the end all for choices and they are expensive.

I would suggest taking out the dreadknights, and putting in 2 Tl auto psybolt dreadnoughts.

Also you NEED a transport for all of your infantry. Termies are not walking tanks and they do get shot to bits, and so will your purifiers if you don't give them a LR or a rhino to get to your opponents with.

Also, interceptors are really only good for contesting objectives, nothing else.... so it's kind of pointless to keep them in my opinion.

I would seriously consider a LR because armor 14 all around is a tough nut to crack for most armies and weapons. It's like a moving bunker that absorbs most of your opponent's shots. You can run with one termie team combat squaded with two LRs and give rest of your troops transport as well.

For a beginning list I would recommend a normal HQ. Don't take Corteaz until you are firmly settled into GK.

Ok, thank you, taken advice on board. One Dreadknight removed, Land Raider and Razorback added, as well as three meltaguns for henchmen in a Chimera.

BlapBlapBlap what would you take over Coteaz?

HQ 
Inquisitor Coteaz = 100

Elites 
Grey Knight Purifier Squad including two Force Halbreds, with Incinirator and Psycannon 120+10+4 Total = 134 (In Razorback)
 
Troops
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo Total = 245 (In LR)
 
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo Total = 245 (Deep striking)

Inquisitorial henchman with Bolters, Melta bombs and 3x Meltaguns in Carapace Armour 32+32+3x10+5+4 Total = 103
(In Chimera with Coteaz)

Dedicated Transports 
Razorback with Twin-linked Lascannon 45+35 Total = 80

Inquisitorial Chimera with Storm bolter 55+10 Total = 65
 
Heavy Support
Nemesis Dreadknight Heavy Psycannon and  Powersword with Interceptor 130+40+25+75 Total = 270

Land Raider Crusader = 255
 
Total = 1,496

I deep strike the second terminator squad to bolster where needed.

Solved?

I'm not particularly GK, but a Brother-Captain may be an option. I've found inquisitors are cheap but are seriously lacking in good armour. Get something that is well protected but not outrageously expensive.

I'd rather a librarian with a stave plus quicksilver, might of titan, shrouding, and santuary. That HQ boosts your termie's abilities (Quicksilver = I 10 and might = +1S and +1D for pen so 3D pen. correct me if i'm wrong here) and has a good save with +2 invul in CC and +5invul normally. Even if you have a sword, it's +4 invul all around..... sure you won't be able to go inquisition, but if you are new to GK i'd suggest trying out a pure GK list first before using some of the inquisition stuff which is complicated.

Also, as i've said, LR is probably more meaner looking and more damaging than a dreadknight. If you really want one in your army, i'd said use him for anti-infantry: give him an incinerator so he could shunt, then burn out most infantry (when playing against infantry-heavy list) It's going to get shot to bits before anything maybe except for the land raider..... let it at least do some damage. That's one of the reasons why i don't personally like taking dreadknights. Honestly i would sub another LR(with las, not crusader) in their for you to charge your termies safely. Plus if you cast shrouding and put two LRs side by side they both get cover. A Stormraven wouldn't be so bad either.

Some fairly drastic changes post advice from the forum and reading up. I think this army has more flexibility to expand. For example another 250 points and I add a Dreadknight, or perhaps Interceptors/increase Librarians wargear. I think this is the most rounded and quickest army I could build.

Most things start on the table with one squad of Terminators waiting in deep strike to bolster where needed. Land Raider with Terminators and HQ down the middle. Purifiers flank and Dreadnoughts provide fire support. In theory anyway. Testing Thursday night so will share.

HQ 
Librarian/Brother Captain = 150

Elites 
Grey Knight Purifier Squad with Incinerator and Psycannon
120+10 Total = 130

Grey Knight Purifier Squad with Incinerator and Psycannon
120+10 Total = 130
 
Troops
Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo 200+25+20 Total = 245

Grey Knight Terminators with Psycannon and Psybolt ammo 200+25+20 Total = 245 (Deep Strike)

Dedicated Transports 
Razorback with Twin-linked Heavy Bolters = 45

Razorback with Twin-linked Heavy Bolters = 45
 
Heavy Support

Land Raider Crusader = 255

Dreadnought with twin-linked Autocannon and Psybolt ammo 115+10+5 Total = 130

Dreadnought with twin-linked Autocannon and Psybolt ammo 115+10+5 Total = 130
 
Total = 1,505

Thanks for everyone's feedback and advice.

i have had some experience with the Grey knights and i tell you this:

HQ: Librarian will cost more because you need to buy his psycic abilities and i have never used a brother captain so i cant speak on him. i really like a librarian as he can join Mordrak and then have a teleport homer allowing deep strike terminators like crazy, but mordrak has to have his ghost knights.

elites:
i would suggest a rhino for both of those units, this will allow the psycannons to shoot and will free up a few points psycannons better then the bolter anyways. also just take psycannons no incinerators, cannons just better.

Troops:
if you have not decided on CC weapons take 4 halberds and a Daemon hammer, all are free and make the unit attack faster and more versitile. thought i do warn that these will be targets if not protected and will die before getting across the field, perhaps putting them in the raider(at least one unit)

Heavy Support:
dreads are perfect! might wanna add a multimelta on the raider to give it some tank killing power as well since it can shoot at whatever it wants basically.

overall the units are ok, but you might wanna try and focus on a certain tactic, but other wise protect your expensive units like termies and purifiers with tanks to get them where you need them.

Also Draigo is just epic in my opinion and should be used often lol

Thanks, I've swapped those Razorbacks to Rhinos to carry my Purifiers. Using the spare points to give my Librarian a few powers. I lack the points for Draigo or a Multimelta on the LR but could rarely fire it at the speed I'll be getting to enemy lines anyway. Psycannons cost too much to add one more to my Purifiers. But will consider all of those additions when I play over 1,500 points.

Thanks all. Really appreciate the advice, especially as it's my first post!