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A couple of months ago I came back into the hobby after a break and saw some new Dark Eldar minis (sweet!) and a thing called finecast. Now after reading a bit about it I came across the casting issues that a lot people are having, but you can just take stuff back until you get something that's acceptable.

The other thing that I read about was that it's sensitive to heat. This worries me slightly more. Just how much of an issue is this? Has anyone had their minis warp after you've painted them? Has anyone had paint crack and peel off or anything like that?

A thousand apologies if this has been covered before.

Thin parts like spear shafts bend in high heat (like 40 celcius). My Zoanthropes were rebased without the little capillary tower the sit on because the join is less than 1mm and ends up bending under it's own weight, even if the weight is almost non existant (it's extremely light).

Outside of things like that, you should have to worry about warping. I even heated and bend on of the zoanthropes tails after being primed, and the paint didn't crack.

I work out in Saudi.
I didn't have any problems over the summer despite temperatures of over 50c.

marv335 wrote:I work out in Saudi.
I didn't have any problems over the summer despite temperatures of over 50c.

Heheh. It definitely isn't going to get that hot in blightly

I guess I should be fine then. So, basically, don't leave them out in the sun.

Thanks for the replies.

Skarwael wrote:

marv335 wrote:I work out in Saudi.
I didn't have any problems over the summer despite temperatures of over 50c.

Heheh. It definitely isn't going to get that hot in blightly

I guess I should be fine then. So, basically, don't leave them out in the sun.

Thanks for the replies.

Well just remember a few things. Fineco$t doesn't react well to paint strippers like 'simple green' I have a friends GK (Crowe I think) in simple green just to see if fineco$t can be stripped and I have found that it really weakins the material. His sword curled around itself and his cape became kind of 'wibbley wobbley timey wimey'. His bling was also distoryed while I was running my toothbrush over it.

So, just a warning if you are thinking of selling your painted finecast models if you decide to get out of 40k again people might not want to buy them because of the finecast issues.

If you store your models is a model cabnet with lights it might also not be a good idea to store finecast in there also as the heat from the light can warp the material also.

Next weeks ( or two's ) experiment is if Fineca$t crowe can survive the microwave...pic's to come. =o]

The handle on Coteaz bent in the heat of a closed room...

Looks like Im gonna need to permanently keep the aircon on or store them in the fridge...

Its especially annoying as he was already painted...

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote: Next weeks ( or two's ) experiment is if Fineca$t crowe can survive the microwave...pic's to come. =o]

I'm not sure even plastic mini's would survive in the microwave for long XD! This could be funny

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
So, just a warning if you are thinking of selling your painted finecast models if you decide to get out of 40k again people might not want to buy them because of the finecast issues.

Or repaint them as my painting skill improves...

Urgh... I was going to get some Incubi, but I'm considering using my old models!

Deliberate GW plot? I think so.

Skarwael wrote:

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
So, just a warning if you are thinking of selling your painted finecast models if you decide to get out of 40k again people might not want to buy them because of the finecast issues.

Or repaint them as my painting skill improves...

Urgh... I was going to get some Incubi, but I'm considering using my old models!

Deliberate GW plot? I think so.

Well if you repaint them to much there are going to look like the michlian man eventually. It might be GW's way to cut down on the second hand market. I don't know.

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:

Skarwael wrote:

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote:
So, just a warning if you are thinking of selling your painted finecast models if you decide to get out of 40k again people might not want to buy them because of the finecast issues.

Or repaint them as my painting skill improves...

Urgh... I was going to get some Incubi, but I'm considering using my old models!

Deliberate GW plot? I think so.

Well if you repaint them to much there are going to look like the michlian man eventually. It might be GW's way to cut down on the second hand market. I don't know.

I meant that I'd strip the paint off if I repainted them, but not if there's going to be issues.

Just to clear some things, regular modelling plastic can also warp in heat. I've had two Airfix ships ruined by warping after they were in direct sunlight for a summer. This happened in tropical conditions of the Arctic Circle.

Skarwael wrote:A couple of months ago I came back into the hobby after a break and saw some new Dark Eldar minis (sweet!) and a thing called finecast. Now after reading a bit about it I came across the casting issues that a lot people are having, but you can just take stuff back until you get something that's acceptable.

The other thing that I read about was that it's sensitive to heat. This worries me slightly more. Just how much of an issue is this? Has anyone had their minis warp after you've painted them? Has anyone had paint crack and peel off or anything like that?

A thousand apologies if this has been covered before.

It was covered. Mr. Mystery went spastic over the subject then claimed to have put it in the oven. Myself, I don't like it, and want nothing to do with the material, because it looks like toffey. Saw three or four batches in different stores as it were, and was not impressed to the poit where I gave up on anything "New" from GW. I'm now into just painting and working with the RT and previous edition stuff. IMO, GW is on a deathknell, based on other issued besides the finecrap. In fact, I'm starting to think that finecost is the least of thier issues.

Another guy left it in the car, then said that it bent the bases, and the weapons curled, but then they slightly bent back after the material cooled.


Personally, and from conversation here? It is looking more and more like that first couple of batches of finecrap was a base test batch without good QAQC, and was pushed to market AFAP to get it into circulation, based on metal prices at the time. The airpockets and mold material were an afterthought, and are now seeming to be improving, based on more conversations here on dakka.

Other companies have GW on the ropes with thier conversion from metal to resin, so hopefully they learned to not let thier mouths write checks thier product can not cash.

Gilli247 wrote:

FabricatorGeneralMike wrote: Next weeks ( or two's ) experiment is if Fineca$t crowe can survive the microwave...pic's to come. =o]

I'm not sure even plastic mini's would survive in the microwave for long XD! This could be funny

Welcome to 6 months ago.

Finecast becomes rock hard when exposed to exteme oven heats. It also has shape memory so it will go back to original shapes unless pressured and cooled in the shape.