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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran





Houston, TX

REVISED LIST
Pedro + 10 Sternguard (5x combi-melta) + Drop Pod w/ Locator Beacon
Dreadnought w/ Assault Cannon Drop pod
Tac + Meltagun + PC + Drop Pod
Tac + Meltagun + PC + Drop Pod
Tac + Flamer + PC + Drop Pod
Tac + Flamer + PC + Drop Pod
Thunderfire Cannon

Librarian (Epistolary, Gate of Infinity, Vortex of Doom, Terminator armour) + Terminator w/ Cyclone ML

ORIGINAL LIST

Pedro + 5 Assault Terminators + Drop pod (from TFC)
Librarian (Epistolary, Null Zone, Vortex of Doom, Terminator Armor) + 5 Shooty Terminators + Drop pod (from dev squad)
Ironclad Dreadnought (MM, DCCW) + Drop pod

Tac + Meltagun + Plasma Cannon + Lasplas Razorback
Tac + Meltagun + Plasma Cannon + Lasplas Razorback
Tac + Flamer + Plasma Cannon + Lasplas Razorback

Devastator 4x ML
Thunderfire Cannon

Is this a viable local tourny list?

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Wyoming

i am pretty sure that dedicated transports can't be used by other squads until AFTER deployment. e.g. mephiston can't deploy in a tactical squads rhino. So your drop pod with termies wont really work.
   
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I am not sure about that. From what I understand there is no rule that says no. You can buy a drop pod for a squad and drop it empty so I don't think it would be a problem for someone else to drop in it. I could be wrong though.

My question is, is this really a drop pod army with 3 drop pods? My answer would be no.

You really want more drop pods in it. The razorbacks should be pods and the terminators can deep strike so no need for drop pods.
   
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran





Houston, TX

Sigh. After further reading, it appears only BA and SW can drop-pod termies. Any recommendation on how I can make a competitive Drop Pod army?

How about swapping out 5 Assault Terminators for Sternguard or maybe Honour guards? After all, Pedro is a chapter master.
   
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Well with Pedro, Sternguard are the best option. They can take Drop Pod so no worry there. Tactical squads are needed. They can take Drop Pods. Dreads for your vehicles, they can take Drop Pods. Play around with that and see what you can do. MoTF is a nice addition as well. He can make Dreads heavy as well as elites. Saves the space for your Sternguard.

Good luck!
   
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Houston, TX

How about now, 6 drop pod with deep strike. That gotta get the attention .
   
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Ok well here is a quick list I built. Please change with what you feel you like better. This is just to give you an idea of what I am talking about. I wasn't sure your point limit. This is for a 2k list.

Pedro
MoTF: Combi-Melta, PW

Sternguard x7: 3x Combi-Melta
-Sgt: PF
Drop Pod
Sternguard x7: 3x Combi-Melta
-Sgt: PF
Drop Pod
Sternguard x7: 3x Combi-Flamer, HF
-Sgt: PF
Drop Pod

Tactical Squad x10: Melta, MM
-Sgt: Combi-Melta, PF
Drop Pod
Tactical Squad x10: Melta, MM
-Sgt: Combi-Melta, PF
Drop Pod

Dread: MM, HF
Drop Pod
Dread: MM, HF
Drop Pod
Dread: MM, HF
Drop Pod

Like I said this is pretty simple. You can add for your flavor. You might want to add terminators to teleport down. That is up to you. You have 5 scoring units(Pedro's rule). You have alot of AT along with one sqaud to deal with horde or what not.

8 Pods, 4 out first turn. Anyways good luck!
   
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Houston, TX

That list looks nice. Thanks. Now, I need to grab some more Drop Pod off ebay.
I change MoTF to use Conversion Beamer. That will annoy the hell out of them while I wait for all my pods to come in.

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Ok, I am not sure why.

I don't really like the conversion beamer but to each there own. I think it is fine in Apoc games as you have longer ranges, but honestly on a normal board it is wasted. IMHO.

Good luck!

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Houston, TX

By a normal board do you mean 3x2 tiles?
   
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Yeah a 6'x4' table. I guess you have the battle board so yeah. 3x2 tiles.
   
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Houston, TX

In your list, MoTF has Combi-melta and PW, will he comes in with one of the Sternguard pod?
   
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yeah. You could double the MoTF and Padro if you want or put them in seperate pods.

Its really your choice.
   
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If MOTF has conversion beamer, he's presumably sitting in cover at the back. He needs some friends.

Maybe stick a 5 man devastator squad in there, drop the pod empty and give them missiles. They can then sit with the MOTF. He's not an IC, but they can stop him getting isolated. You could pay for this by dropping a tac squad.

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Um, Yes he is an IC..
   
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Ashburnham, Massachusetts

Doesn't the SM Librarian have some variation of a teleport/deepstrike power that you could use first turn to teleport termies across the board? While this is not a drop pod, it could work well if your pods drop and then the Librarian & termies benefit from teleport homers on the pods.
   
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Houston, TX

I thought that Teleport Homer has to be already on the table in order for it to be used. That is, I cannot Drop pod in the movement phase and then use Gate of Infinity in the Shooting phase. I have to wait until the next turn.
   
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Yes you are right leohart.
   
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Ashburnham, Massachusetts

I thought that Teleport Homer has to be already on the table in order for it to be used. That is, I cannot Drop pod in the movement phase and then use Gate of Infinity in the Shooting phase. I have to wait until the next turn.


Aw shucks; that is how someone used it on me once. NIK.
   
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InquisitorMack wrote:Aw shucks; that is how someone used it on me once. NIK.


Then he cheated you.
   
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Chosen Baal Sec Youngblood




West Des Moines, Iowa

This is the Drop pod list I use

HQ
Vulkan 190
MotF CFL 110

Elites
Dread MM DP 140
Dread MM DP 140
Dread MM DP 140

Troops
10 Tac MM FL CFL DP 215
10 Tac MM FL CFL DP 215
10 Tac MM FL CFL DP 215

Fast
Speeder MM HFL 70
Speeder MM HFL 70
Speeder MM HFL 70

Heavy
Dread MM DP 140
Dread MM DP 140
Dread MM DP 140

Total 1995

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Houston, TX

I might be wrong but I thought posting points are not allowed.

Also, what is CFL and what is HFL? That aside, 3 Drop pod dreads coming in messing up their devastators and tanks while the other 3 dreads pushing the front stopping their transport look scary. I am just not sure if the speeder will do enough damage with MM. The second they drop in close enough for MM, they will get assaulted and explode, no?

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West Des Moines, Iowa

CFL=Combi Flamer and HFL=Heavy Flamer I was just to lazy to write that all out. The Speeders usually last 1 turn, but get one good shot in and every shot that is fired at them saves the dreads from being shot. To be assaulted that first turn they need 6s to hit.

I thought points were allowed just not specific points.

Also the tac are in DP as well forgot to put them in. I edited the post

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To the OP
I like your revised list a lot but if your going with so many meltas and flamers drop the librarian and take vulkan im sure you will like it
   
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The Speeders can't fire the turn they come in. The count as moving to fast.

I do like this other then them, but the problem is he wants Padro, not Vulkan. Not every marine list needs Vulkan. I think he will do fine with taking Padro and some sternguard. Right now he just needs to find the right amout of them.

   
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West Des Moines, Iowa

They count as moving fast so they are allowed to fire one weapon.

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Boosting Space Marine Biker





Quebec, Canada

IMO Pedro and Vulkan Drop pod lists are quite good, but you can't count out a Vanilla list that keeps Combat Tactics. For a force that drops right on top of the ennemy and damn close to it's counter assault units, the ability to fall back before the assault phase is quite good.

Food for thoughts

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I dropped honour guard down in 1000 points and they killed half the guys army before they died off also I've heard it has worked using devestator squads with mm which means Vulcan could work with pedro scout bikers could be useful with their homer things (I don't have my codex on me).

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