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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 22:42:20
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Lady Archon Malys
3x Groteques (Malys will ride with these guys) Armed with Liquifier Gun and Scissorhand.
In a Raider (Disintergrator Cannon)
5x Mandrakes
5x Wyches (Hydra Gauntlets, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Venom Blade)
In a Venom (Extra Splinter Cannon)
5 x Wyches (Shardnet and Impaler, Phatasm Grenade Launcher, Agoniser)
In a Venom (Extra Splinter Cannon)
10 x Kabalite Warriors (Splinter Cannon, 9x Splinter Rifles)
In a Raider (Disintergrator Cannon, Splinter Racks)
Ravager (3x Dark Lances)
Got the list from a friend as i'm new to 40k, any advice or help?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 22:44:31
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Looks solid to me, although i've never been too good with army lists, and realy don't know much about DE XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 23:37:15
Subject: Re:1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Commoragh-bound Peer
Central Texas, USA
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Drop the mandrakes...they're pretty useless.
I'd raise the wyches to 9-man squads with a Heamonculi with liquifier gun to give them FNP. Outfit the squad with Hekatrix w/ agoniser and give them haywire grenades
I don't have my codex with me to double check my points but my list would look somethin like this.
wyches x 9 .......... 90
Hekatrix ............. 15
Agonizer ............. 20
Haywire .............. 18
Haemonculi w/ liqui .. 60
Raider w/ FF ........ 70
another squad setup the same 273
Ravager w/ FF ...... 115
Malys ................... 150
Grotesques x3 ........ 105
Raider w/ FF .......... 70
Should be close to 1000 pts. Doesnt leave room for the warriors, but you could use incubi instead of grots and run an archon instead of Malys and probobly fit in room for a 5-man warrior squad with a blaster in a venom with dual splinter cannons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 23:44:34
Subject: Re:1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Thank you  will look over codex and see.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/15 23:58:50
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
Los Angeles
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I would reccomend dropping the mandrakes and getting more darklight weaponry. If you like Malys shes alright but not the best choice. My best advice is to read the Dark Eldar Tactica in the articles section.
Look at how many skimmers you have, 2 Venoms, 2 Raiders and a Ravager, for my 1000 point list I have Venom, 3 Raiders and a Ravager, very similar.
3 Grotesques and Malys is a very powerful unit, 5x mandrakes are not, and neither are 5x wyches. 10x Kabalites is fine fire support.
I digress, check the DE tactica, the writer is a better player than I.
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Orks
Dark Eldar
Void Dragon Corsairs
WIP Tyrants Legion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/16 16:00:22
Subject: Re:1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Thank you, and I really do want to keep the Malys cause I like her.
I will look at the article and see what I think.
Thank you for the advice.
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Cult of a thousand wounds
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/17 00:52:39
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
Los Angeles
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Hey no problem, while Malys isn't great she's not terrible either and is fine for games against friends and such. Her ability to redploy units can (especially in smaller games) really feth up your opponent.
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Orks
Dark Eldar
Void Dragon Corsairs
WIP Tyrants Legion |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/17 09:57:49
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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Hey there,
I don't have my codex to hand, so will post a better reply as soon as I can, my initial thoughts are that you could / should take a haemonculus with WWP with the grotesques, also give him and 1 of the grotesques a liquifier, and you have a hellishly heavy hitting unit with FNP straight off the bat. Zip these guys right up the flank on turn one, drop 'em out of the raider, drop the WWP and spring everything else from there. Put Malys with a wych squad too, she'll be getting in close with those weapons so wych special weapons will be a welcome addition.
I agree that you need more darklight weaponry, though wouldn't swap the DC on the raider, as this gives you a higher chance of doing damage with 3 shots as opposed to one.
Maybe put in another ravager in place of the mandrakes (I'm loathe to say this, as I really want a list with mandrakes in it to work! I think this is the best way of saving points to beef up your big gun support though)
Like I say, when I have my 'dex in hand I'll be able to see if this will actually fit in to a 1000 point list!
Cheers,
Kitch102
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/18 13:20:39
Subject: Re:1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Commoragh-bound Peer
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Thank you for your suggestions, i would of liked to have madrakes in there, that's why they were put in firstly.
All your suggestions look viable, will have a play around with army list soon and post updated one when I get some time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/18 13:38:41
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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I'm the same, I want to use Mandrakes and have 10 waiting to be painted, they're just not the most tactically sound, at least until they've had their first unit kill and got their pain token for the ranged attack.
The only way I can see around this is:
1) Start them off on your table edge with a haemonculus, near a unit in a raider
2) Disengage the haemy, leaving his pain token with the 'drakes
3) Get the 'drakes on the nearby raider and shoot off in to the distance
The disadvantages are:
1) Lose the element of surprise
2) Start on the wrong side, facing the enemies guns
3) That's a lot of points just to give them more options in combat
4) Your haemy and the original owner of the raider (or venom) are then stranded waiting for another transport to come along. This potentially leaves them out of range for 2 turns
They'd be sound against small Orc / Guard squads, though I don't think that you'll find a unit small enough to decimate in 1 turn with them. If they had power weapons, then they'd be so much more attractive and viable, but sadly wishlisting doesn't amount to much :(
I'm with you though, I want them to be good, and will try to find as many ways as possible to make them effective (I bought 'em, I WILL use 'em, someday, somehow  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/18 16:04:04
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Boosting Black Templar Biker
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I personally prefer big units of wyches and small units of warriors rather than the way you have it. If you want some small tweaks to make your current list more competitive, I'd recommend dropping the phantasm grenade launchers on your wyches. They're expensive, and wyches already have plasma grenades. Next, switch the disintegrator cannons out for dark lances. You always need more anti tank in a dark eldar army since your poisoned guns and s3 melee are literally useless against vehicles. Finally, use the points from the grenade launchers to add flickerfields to all of your vehicles. They give our paper vehicles a chance at survival.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/18 20:19:35
Subject: Re:1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Kabalite Conscript
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More DL Automatically Appended Next Post: VampyreWyche wrote:Lady Archon Malys
3x Groteques (Malys will ride with these guys) Armed with Liquifier Gun and Scissorhand.
In a Raider (Disintergrator Cannon)
5x Mandrakes
5x Wyches (Hydra Gauntlets, Phantasm Grenade Launcher, Venom Blade)
In a Venom (Extra Splinter Cannon)
5 x Wyches (Shardnet and Impaler, Phatasm Grenade Launcher, Agoniser)
In a Venom (Extra Splinter Cannon)
10 x Kabalite Warriors (Splinter Cannon, 9x Splinter Rifles)
In a Raider (Disintergrator Cannon, Splinter Racks)
Ravager (3x Dark Lances)
Got the list from a friend as i'm new to 40k, any advice or help?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/18 20:20:01
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 17:32:00
Subject: 1000 pts DE - New to 40K
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Maybe droping something for a unit of DL scourges? Automatically Appended Next Post: I know you like the Scourge models
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/27 17:32:14
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