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In which Categories are these close combat weapons? How many atacks does each of them has?

Both of those should be in the vehicle wargear section of the codex or in the unit descriptions.

Number of attacks are also listed in the codex in the unit entry.


Sorry, but the forums are not a replacement for the books.

This is still not what I wanted, does dreadnought have to desame special weapons or two different special weapons? If he would have two different special weapons
that would make no sense, because sesmic hammer is a bit better then dreadnought close combat weapon and there would be no sense of using dreadnought close combat weapon.

devestator 7777777 wrote:I HAVE A RULE AND ARMY BOOK, IT IS JUST I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IF THE DRENOUGHT HAS 3 ATACKS FOR EACH OF THE WEAPONS OR 3 ATACKS ALTOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*slow clap*

I hear typing in caps gets better responses.

Its pretty clearly explained in the respective codex.

In which Categories are these close combat weapons? How many atacks does each of them has?


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P.65 explains the seismic hammer. The rulebook has the rules for the dreadnought close combat weapon. The rulebook also explains how attacks are made with different weapons. The codex explains how many attacks the model gets.

Asking the same question over and over again doesn't accomplish anything.

Questions like this are easily answered by reading through the books more than once to understand the rules.

In which Categories are these close combat weapons? How many atacks does each of them has?


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The attacks for the weapons will be listed in the dreadnoughts profile. it's under the letter A

I'm not sure personally if a DCCW + Seismic hammer gives +1 attack though.

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

I'm not sure personally if a DCCW + Seismic hammer gives +1 attack though.

Its included in the dread's profile as 2(3).

You want pages 6, 37, 42 and 73 of the rulebook.

"Characteristics"
"Number of Attacks"
"Close Combat Weapons"
"Walkers and Assaults"

Blacksails wrote:

jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:

I'm not sure personally if a DCCW + Seismic hammer gives +1 attack though.

Its included in the dread's profile as 2(3).

Thanks Blacksails, I figured I'd try to help out the OP as I remember when the codexes where insanely confusing and finding rules for special attacks was near impossible.

I know what you mean. The real question though, is whether or not the dread gets the extra attack if it uses the chainfist instead of the seismic hammer...but that's for another thread.

Mannahnin got the page numbers. My rulebook is a few thousand kilometres away for the next few months, sadly.

Blacksails wrote:I know what you mean. The real question though, is whether or not the dread gets the extra attack if it uses the chainfist instead of the seismic hammer...but that's for another thread.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1620227a_Space_Marines_Version_1_2.pdf

Mannahnin wrote:

Blacksails wrote:I know what you mean. The real question though, is whether or not the dread gets the extra attack if it uses the chainfist instead of the seismic hammer...but that's for another thread.

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1620227a_Space_Marines_Version_1_2.pdf

Mannahnin saves the day again! Thanks for clearing that up.

This is still not want I wanted, does dreadnought have to desame special weapons or two different special weapons? If he would have two different special weapons
that would make no sense, because sesmic hammer is a bit better then dreadnought close combat weapon and there would be no sense of using dreadnought close combat weapon.


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Sorry for this fatal speling mistake

The Ironclad Dreadnought, which is what I am assuming you are referring to, has a Seismic Hammer, and a Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon.

The rules for the Seismic hammer are on page 65 of the Space marines Codex.

The rules for the Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon are on page 73 of the main rule book.

It is pretty clear that a Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon is not a Seismic hammer. So they are not the same weapon. (But have a close read of P.73 in the Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon box.)

If the Seismic Hammer/Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapon combo of the Ironclad Dreadnaught is anything like the Force Weapon/Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapon combo of the Furioso Librarian then you do get the bonus attack for extra CCW which should be listed in it's profile in the Army List within parenthesis ex. 1(2)

EDIT: well I could have sworn I saw somewhere in an FAQ but seeing as the Ironclad has the same attacks characteristics as a Furioso Dreadnaught with 2 Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapons I would say that statement stands and they consider the Dreadnaught Close Combat Weapon as a basic CCW and not a special.

Thanks Saiisil you helped alot ,but i still want to know if all of atacks come from the sesmic hammer?

As answered in the other thread you just started, yes, they do. Aside from certain specific exceptions (like servo arms) all of a model's close combat attacks are made with a single weapon. The second weapon only ever grants the bonus attack, it doesn't affect how the attack is made.

This what I wanted . If someone has any other dubts about assult dread you can describe them hier

If I remember from BA, a Dread will only benefit from the effects of one weapon in CC, but will still have an extra attack.