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Picked up Space Wolves the other day, fell in love with the terminator models, and ended up picking up three boxes of them!

So we have to start off:

275 - Logan Grimnar
140 - Rune Priest with Living Lightning, JOTWW, Meltabombs, and Wolf Tail Talisman

175 - Venerable Dreadnought with Plasma Cannon
215 - Grey Hunter Pack x10 with 2 Meltaguns, Wolfen, Wolf Standard, Rhino
215 - Grey Hunter Pack x10 with 2 Meltaguns, Wolfen, Wolf Standard, Rhino
215 - Wolf Guard Pack x5 with 4x Wolf Claw, 1 Assault Cannon
215 - Wolf Guard Pack x5 with 4x Wolf Claw, 1 Assault Cannon

140 - Long Fang Support x6 with 5 Missile Launchers
140 - Long Fang Support x6 with 5 Missile Launchers
140 - Long Fang Support x6 with 5 Missile Launchers


So I have 130ish points left, 140 if I take the trim off the Rune Priest. I was thinking about taking a Thunderwolf Cavalry Squad with 2 Models, Mark of Wulfen on one, and a Frost Blade on the other. Probably not the wisest choice, but that's what I'm coming to you guys for.


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Or potentially a Wolf Priest and something else, to help with Long Fang survivability. Also, I was sticking the Rune Priest and Logan in one squad, and Logan would give the squad tank hunter every so often


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Alternatively, dropping one long fang pack and taking a Land Raider of some variety as a transport.

my suggestion would be to throw a wolf guard into those grey hunters squad, ld 9 and an extra power fist is nice!! if you could throw those wolf guard into a razorback or something they'll survive longer

Dashyl wrote:my suggestion would be to throw a wolf guard into those grey hunters squad, ld 9 and an extra power fist is nice!!

Yes! Always try and get a wolf guard leader into your grey hunter packs for the leadership boost plus cheaper power weapon with the wolf guard extra attack. Power fist and combi-melta are standard.

Not sure why the rune priest costs 140? I assume he is in TDA since it is your theme but even then he should cost 130 with wolf talisman (not needed) and meltabombs. I do suggest getting chooser of the slain.

With so many long fangs the dread is a waste of points, use those points for more wolf guard maybe?

And heck yes get a landraider! I prefer crusaders for the added carrying capacity but its all to one's own taste. Footslogging terminators are not a good idea, people can avoid them or just shoot them. And since SW can't deep strike terminators a landraider or drop pod is the only real alternative. If you drop the dread you have plenty of points left for a landraider without dropping a valuable long fang squad. If you have points left pick up some lasplas razorbacks for the fangs.

Wolf priest with long fangs is a no go, no synergy there at all. Wolf priest is best with blood claws.

Thunderwolf cav is good if you have the points but mark of the wulfen is a waste on them as you already get rending. Try to get storm shields but alas, that is very expensive but makes them much more survivable. Be sure to hide them behind landraiders or rhinos until needed to charge forth.

And lastly, Logan is wasted in a long fang squad unless your using a drop pod with multmelta fangs. Logan needs to be in the thick of battle to use all his abilities to get his money's worth.

He has Chooser, that's why he costs 140. Sounds good otherwise. Will make some modifications later today

take the landraider... landraider always seem to make people cry when their on the board...

2 TWC without proper gear is a big waste of points because its really easy to shoot out. I,d go 1 with TH/SS, 1 with just SS or i,d drop them completely.

The dread stands out like a sore thumb. Remove it and spend the points on something better.

Wolf scouts would mesh well with this list, either by clearing out backfield parking lots or obj contesting. They also serve in pushing the enemy forwards towards your oncoming army.

For once i,d actually go with 10 man gh unit setup because you're spending so much points on termies and other stuff.

I'm usually not pro-LRs in sw lists but for once i think its needed.

What is the loadout for the wolf guard packs?
Is it 4x with 1 wolf claw and a termi with assault cannon?
That is 132 for the wolf claw men and 63 for the assault cannnon termi. Total is 195 is there melta bombs or something?

I was assuming they're all in TDA since he said he loved the models, so 4 tda with wc and 1 tda with AC amounts to 215

So, here is what I am currently thinking on:

275 - Logan Grimnar
130 - Rune Priest with TDA, Chooser, Jaws, Living Lightning

165 - Venerable Dreadnought with an Assault Cannon

160 - 5x Grey Hunters, 1 Plasma Gun, Razorback with TL LC
200 - 9x Grey Hunters, 1 Melta Gun, MoW, Wolf Standard, Rhino
260 - 5x Wolf Guard: 5x TDA, 2x Chainfist, 1 Assault Cannon, 1 TH/SS, 1x Wolf Claw
390 - 10x Wolf Guard: 5x TDA, 2x Assault Cannon, 3x Wolf Claw (On TDA), 2x Power Fist(on PA), 3x Combi-Plasma(On PA)

140 - 6x Long Fang with 5 Missile Launchers
140 - 6x Long Fang with 5 Missile Launchers
140 - 6x Long Fang with 5 Missile Launchers


So, the three combi weapon Wolf Guard go with the three long fang squads, the two power fists go with the Grey Hunters, then the Priest goes with the smaller Squad, while Logan goes with the two assault cannon squad. Venerable Dreadnought helps push. The Ven Dread is something I'd very much like to keep in this list. I have also been considering removing Logan, and putting in Bjorn, removing the dread and putting in more Grey Hunters, while essentially keeping the list the same.

Tjolle79 wrote:I was assuming they're all in TDA since he said he loved the models, so 4 tda with wc and 1 tda with AC amounts to 215

I was looking at the wrong entry, ten points for the stormbolter->wolf claw switch instead of the 5 for powersword->wolf claw.

I'd probably still drop the plasma gun off the 5 man squad, i just prefer melta myself much better value for money. I don't think combi plasma is that great, the combi melta offers a tank-busting or character killing shot, plasma also has the risk of getting hot and all that mess.

Sticking a wolf guard on a long fang squad that doesn't have a cyclone missile launcher on it is a waste as they don't recoup their cost.

The Wolfguard that attach to the long fangs are simply there to give an extra body, and to allow my terminators to take two assault cannons. The 5 man squad isn't going to be moving, just sitting on objectives providing fire support, and hopefully NO ONE ever gets within 12 inches.


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Alternatively:

275 - Logan Grimnar
130 - Rune priest in TDA with Chooser

105 - Lone Wolf in TDA with TH/SS, 2 Wolves
85 - 5x Wolf Scouts with Melta Gun
165 - Venerable Dreadnought with Assault Cannon

270 - 5x TDA Wolf Guard - Assault Cannon, 2x Pair of Wolf Claws, Chainfist, TH/SS
270 - 5x TDA Wolf Guard - Assault Cannon, 2x Pair of Wolf Claws, Chainfist, TH/SS
99 - 3x PA Wolf Guard with 2x Powerfist, 1x Combi-Melta
160 - 5x Grey Hunter with 1 Plasma Gun, Razorback with Lascannon
160 - 5x Grey Hunter with 1 Plasma Gun, Razorback with Lascannon

140 - 6x Long Fang with 5x Missile Launchers
140 - 6x Long Fang with 5x Missile Launchers

Walking terminators across a board is almost never a good idea. They will get shot up and units could just avoid them. Your terms are not very shooty, except for the ACs, so waling makes the situation even worse for them IMHO.

Paying 160 points for one assault cannon, even if on an upgraded dreadnaught just doesn't sit well with me at all. If you want to keep a dread maybe downgrade to a regular one? You don't have a lot of vehicles so he probably won't survive long anyway.

Wolf scouts are never a bad choice but maybe you can squeeze out a couple more terms with the points.

The lone wolf is always great for cool factor but at 105 points you can get two more terms. However, there is no doubt he is great for a weapon magnet and to scare the pants off the enemy as he charges in with a thunder hammer and storm shield.

I'd drop the dread and scouts (or lone wolf) and get a landraider.

Maybe put 5 terms in a drop pod so they are not walking across the table. Another option is to put all terms in drop pods.

I guess my best advice is in the first line, don't walk your terms. Everything else is just suggestions.

Hope you have fun with your wolves!

120 - Wolf Priest in TDA with Combi-Melta
130 - Rune Priest in TDA with Chooser

384 - 5x TDA Wolf Guard - TH/SS, 2x Pair of Wolf Claws, Chainfist, TH/SS, 3 PA Wolf Guard with Powerfists

160 - 5x Grey Hunter with 1 Plasma Gun, Razorback with Lascannon
160 - 5x Grey Hunter with 1 Plasma Gun, Razorback with Lascannon
160 - 5x Grey Hunter with 1 Plasma Gun, Razorback with Lascannon

350 - 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry - SS/Melta Bomb, SS, Meltabomb, Thunderhammer

140 - Long Fang with 5 Missiles
140 - Long Fang with 5 Missiles
250 - Land Raider Crusader

Alternatively, I can trade out the Wolf Priest, one grey Hunter squad and a PA Wolf Guard for Logan back into the list.