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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/25 09:56:33
Subject: 1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
Groningen, The Netherlands
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Based mostly on what I want in my list, modelwise. Still trying to have a decent list as well... Comments?
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100 Necron Overlord, Warscythe
80 Catacomb Command Barge
55 Cryptek, Eldritch Lance, Solar Pulse
Elite
150 Triarch Stalker
150 Triarch Stalker
Troops
130 10 Necron Warriors
115 Ghost Ark
130 10 Necron Warriors
Fast
220 5 Canoptek Wraiths, 3 Whip Coils, Transdimensional Beamer
75 5 Canoptek Scarabs
60 Heavy Destroyer
Heavy
175 Doomsday Ark
200 Necron Monolith
110 2 Canoptek Spider, Fabricator Claw Array
1750 points
14 killpoints, 41 models of which 6 vehicles
Thnx for reading and commenting,
Cilithan
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Fiery the angels fell; deep thunder rolled around their shores; burning with the fires of Orc.
Armies:
Daemons: 5000+ points
CSM/Black Legion: 5000+ points
Deathwatch/Knights: 5000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/25 14:31:56
Subject: 1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Dakka Veteran
Reading - UK
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My perspnal feelings on this list are...
Your troops do not seem very survivable and you can only claim 2 objectives max.
Stalkers are a very nice elite choice although I feel you really need to maximise their ability and take advantage of their ability to give twin linked to anything else shooting at the same enemy unit.
This means taking units that would work nicley with this effect.
So a bunch of Destroyers and/or Immortals would work nicely. Twin linked lascannon shots, ty very much. Twin linked Tesla Carbines giving you more chances to roll those 6's.
All of your Wraiths should have whip coils in my opinion, you want to get as many of these guys in base to base with the enemy unit as possible to ensure most of the enemies attacks go at initiative 1.
I think if you go for Spiders and Scarabs you need to maximise these troop choices to make the combo as poweful as possible.
To me at the moment it looks like you are trying to do a little of everything in this list.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2011/11/25 14:35:45
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 14:59:22
Subject: Re:1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
Groningen, The Netherlands
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Hey L0rdF1end,
Thanx for your reply. I have playtested a variant of this list (proxies) which confirmed some of the things you say. Also I found some things I like and some I don't so heres an ammended list:
HQ 325
100 Necron Overlord, Warscythe
80 Catacomb Command Barge
55 Cryptek, Eldritch Lance, Solar Pulse
35 Cryptek, Eldritch Lance
55 Cryptek, Staff of Light, Veil of Darkness
Elite 300
150 Triarch Stalker
150 Triarch Stalker
Troops 415
170 10 Necron Immortals (+Harbinger of Despair)
65 5 Necron Warriors (+Harbinger of Destruction)
115 Ghost Ark
65 5 Necron Warriors (+Harbinger of Destruction)
Fast 245
245 6 Canoptek Wraiths, 3 Whip Coils, Particle Caster
Heavy 465
175 Doomsday Ark
200 Necron Monolith
90 Annihilation Barge
1750 points
Thoughts? Better? Should I drop the Ghost Ark and the Particle Caster from the Wraiths to add two Heavy Destroyers?
Thanks for reading and commenting,
Cilithan
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Fiery the angels fell; deep thunder rolled around their shores; burning with the fires of Orc.
Armies:
Daemons: 5000+ points
CSM/Black Legion: 5000+ points
Deathwatch/Knights: 5000 points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/01 23:41:54
Subject: 1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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Do not run squads of only 5 warriors each! Those guys will get shot up so quick. A smart player will focus fire on them, and with only a 4+ save, they will easily be able to eliminate the whole squad easily in one round of shooting. This means you have no chance of getting your Reanimation Protocols. I would advise having no less than 10 warriors to a squad.
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In the words of the late, great Colonel Sanders: "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/02 04:15:56
Subject: Re:1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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^^ I second the last part. However, you can get away with 8 if you have an ark.
The Immortals are for objective camping, because the hoping tactic only works with the special ones that the Traveler has.
The stalkers are great, but not as useful as they could be (if you centered the list on their twin-link).
The Wraiths are also good, as always. However, I would drop a few thing (like you said) to get a Destroyer Lord.
I would drop the Doom for a second Barge, as they are a bit better for their points. With those points get the D-Lord, more warriors, and upgrade the Overlord to the Traveler.
Maybe drop a wraith and downgrade the monolith to something else to get a second Ghost Ark.
For tactics, use the Traveler as a suicide barge like normal. Use the Destroyer Lord and the Wraiths to pick off anything short of Hammernators (or ever them really).
Keep the warriors in the Arks to make broadside barrages with their and the warriors combined fire. The stalkers pick off tanks. The Annihilation Barges can do a lot.
Use the solar pulse to get everything into firing position then sit there and blast away.
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Ya, I play Crons, what about it?
Also, they are just shiny space zombies with guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/03 16:17:21
Subject: Re:1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Been Around the Block
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the above army list is actually invalid. One can't have multiple different types of Crypteks in an army w/o having multiple overlords. The max diversity in crypteks an army can get at any given time is 2 (or 3 if you consider a naked cryptek as different). Each court's crypteks all need to be plain or the same type. I just actually noticed this recently and have been doing it wrong....which sucks. =P
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/03 19:03:11
Subject: 1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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abbazabba, it does look like he has only two types of crypteks, two with the eldritch lance, and one with the veil. However, I would like to point out that a cryptek cannot take the veil unless he has the abyssal staff upgrade.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/12/03 19:18:41
Subject: Re:1750 points Necron list - Valid?
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
The best State-Texas
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HQ 325
100 Necron Overlord, Warscythe
80 Catacomb Command Barge
55 Cryptek, Eldritch Lance, Solar Pulse
35 Cryptek, Eldritch Lance
55 Cryptek, Staff of Light, Veil of Darkness
I would Throw Mind Shackle Scarabs on the Overlord, it can help out out a ton if he lands in a bad CC situation. Consider replacing the Tesla Cannon, with the Gauss Cannon as well.
You also can't have the Staff of light, and Veil of Darkness. You have to exchange the Staff of Light, when upgrade to the Harbinger type.
Elite 300
150 Triarch Stalker
150 Triarch Stalker
Solid.
Troops 415
170 10 Necron Immortals (+Harbinger of Despair)
65 5 Necron Warriors (+Harbinger of Destruction)
115 Ghost Ark
65 5 Necron Warriors (+Harbinger of Destruction)
What weapon loadout are you running on the Immortals? I will say I've run the Veil with immortals, and it's not as effective as it used to be. It's a really bad idea to veil Gauss immortals, since they are going to either not be able to do anything, or they are going to land in assault range to be able to rapidfire. Not a good situation for your Immortals to be in. If you are running Tesla, it's not so bad, but it's still very risky.
Fast 245
245 6 Canoptek Wraiths, 3 Whip Coils, Particle Caster
I would say the Particle caster is not needed.
Heavy 465
175 Doomsday Ark
200 Necron Monolith
90 Annihilation Barge
Fairly solid. A lot of people have mixed views on the Doomsday Ark, and the Monolith. I think they can both be solid choices if you play effectively.
As for Modifications, I'd say drop the Immortals and their Cryptek. This can free up enough points for you to do several things to your list. You could buy Another Ghost Ark for your Warrior squad, and go for an AV13 Wall if you wanted. I'd see about trying to fit some more Anti-tank in here though, as that is what is in short supply in your list. If you can get A full Squad of Scarabs in here, it would serve you well.
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