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Hey guys so i got 1v1 Tournie tommorow with some mates so here's what im using

155 - Deamon Prince
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Lash
-Wings

155 - Deamon Prince
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Lash
-Wings

175 - Defiler
-Las
-Havoc

305 - Plague Marines x 10
-AC with personal Icon and powerfist
-plasma gun x 2

305 - Plague Marines x 10
-AC with personal Icon and powerfist
-plasma gun x 2

075 - Obliterator

075 - Obliterator

075 - Obliterator

075 - Obliterator

075 - Obliterator

Im fairly sure on what my mates will be using ; Daemons, Dark Eldar and Space Marines
If you can give me any tips on this please do, I have no idea what the Daemons army will be like but the Marines will be tank heavy, and the Eldar Anti - Tank heavy most probably thats all i really now if you guys have any tips towards that please say thanks guys.

Split your Oblits into two pairs and a single.

Points to be trimmed and optimized:
The icons are not needed on your PMs, as you won't be Deep Striking your Lash DPs, correct? You'll have them on the table where they can Lash on Turn 1. Yes? Also, if you own two rhinos, drop two PMs each and add in the tanks. What else do you own?

Daemons: If he uses FateWeaver, use Lash to move it away from the rest of his army (then shoot his other units), as its buffing is limited in range. Use both Lashes if necessary. This tactic helped me fight a superior opponent (freakin' little genious of a High School kid. Beats face in M:tG, WarmaHordes, pretty much anything he picked up ) to a slim victory. I believe, IIRC, that FateW gives nearby daemon units a re-rolled save. I forget the range. Maybe 12".

Dark Eldar: Trash, in order, his: venoms, raiders (if they're holding wyches, if not) Ravs then warrior raiders. Watch out for wyches tar-pitting your DPs. One unit can beat him in 3 rounds of h2h.

Yeah i see what your saying about the Marines so ill drop the Icons, And i own everything so please hit me up with anything i should add.

And thanks that advice is very helpful cause he will be using Fateweaver most probably. Or he may use a more Nurgle based army which means high Toughness if you have any tips agaisnt that?

Signature wrote:Yeah i see what your saying about the Marines so ill drop the Icons, And i own everything so please hit me up with anything i should add.

Can you field a full 9 oblits? Can your friendships stand the strain of 9 oblits at 1500?

Signature wrote:And thanks that advice is very helpful cause he will be using Fateweaver most probably. Or he may use a more Nurgle based army which means high Toughness if you have any tips agaisnt that?

Keep the Asp. Champs' Pfists. Also clumping via LAsh and then plasma cannon them.

I should just slap you do sumthing difernt

smeg wrote:I should just slap you do sumthing difernt

Pathetic response.
And it is different, and that difference makes this not as effective.
Firstly the list is written wrong, not sure why you have listed the Oblits separately? You want squads of 2 or 3.
Defiler doesn't need a Lascannon, and Defilers should be taken in pairs or triplets.

10 Plagues is far too many points. If you want them to take Power fists, take a squad of 7 with two special weapons and a PF. The most 'competitive' way to run them is squads of 5 with two meltas (or plasmas) in rhinos.

If the DE is mech heavy (you said anti-tank, well that doesn't really tell me much is he using squads of 20 Warriors with 2 DArk lances? Or squds of trueborn with blasters in venoms?) then you definatly want 6 Oblits, either 2x3 or 3x2, probably the latter. And then you want as many troop squads as possible, to be honest 4ish squads of 5 Plagues will probably serve you best. But maybe add some Zerkers for a CC punch. Also mech heavy armies, makes Lash not quite as effective (especially if they take out the DPs before you take out many tanks) maybe take Warptime princes, or Lash Sorcerers that can hide in Rhino squads and cast out of the fire point...

smeg wrote:I should just slap you do sumthing difernt

Sorry for bad post wasn't in a good mood.

Drop the defiler even thou i love them try to fit sum bezerkers in so the plague don't have to be your main troops and thay can sit on objectivs while the bezerkers charge.
Even everyone hase been saying it but use the obliterators in units. Also you mite need a 'rhino' for the plague.

smeg, you can go back and edit out your bad post. And do try for some correct spelling, periods, etc. You know, show that you were educated in the Western world.

Signature wrote:Hey guys so i got 1v1 Tournie tommorow with some mates so here's what im using

155 - Deamon Prince
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Lash
-Wings

155 - Deamon Prince
-Mark of Slaanesh
-Lash
-Wings

HQ's obviously fine - its the standard choice.

Signature wrote:175 - Defiler
-Las
-Havoc

Drop this guy. Although many people say they run better in pairs this is not a rule you need to stick to for future reference, they do work fine on their own with DP's and enough rhino's to draw AT fire. However in order to include him you'd have to run your oblitorators in squads of 3 and 2, and this reduces a lot of flexibility. Besides we need the points for more troops.

305 - Plague Marines x 10
-AC with personal Icon and powerfist
-plasma gun x 2

305 - Plague Marines x 10
-AC with personal Icon and powerfist
-plasma gun x 2

As has been said before, these guys are taking up way too many points, and you need more troop choices at this points level. In a mission like seize ground for example you'll find it hard to get more then a draw, particularly against DE and deamons who typically have a lot of scoring units. Drop them down to units of 7 or even 5 and drop the personnel icon. The inclusion of plasma guns is good for 5 man squads, MSU Plague marines is the only way I'll play MSU, however since I'd probably advise keeping them at 7 in this case you should give them melta's to deal with your SM tank heavy list - you may struggle with Land raiders otherwise. With the remaining points saved from the defiler and the dropped Plague marines get 2 rhinos for the PM's and go for a squad of 8 beserkers with Skull champion power fist in a rhino. They're pretty awesome in Lash lists where the opponent can be drawn forward towards them in order to ensure they get the charge.

As has been said run your Oblits in squads of 2 2 1. And Voila, you've got the same list as everyone else - but thats because it works !