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I am sic of seeing the same old st for chaos i am righting a list to be difernt.

HQ
lucius =160
summond greater deamon=100

ELITE
10 possessed w/ icon of nurgle champ =320

TROOPS
10 csm w/ campion melta bombs 2 melta guns rino =225
10 csm w/ campion melta bombs 2 melta guns rino =225
10 csm w/ campion melta bombs icon of slaanesh 2 flamers rino =235
HEAVY
9 havocs w/ campion melta bombs icon of slaanesh 4 flamers rino w/ extra armour dozer blade =250
land raider w/extra armour =235

=1750

There a list thats difernt.
Tell me what you think.

Seems like a variation on the standard theme of a rhino rush, Lucius is with the Havocs I assume?

If you happen to get power weapons on the possessed that unit could actually be good 1/6 games until the Rhino gets shot.

I could tell you the standard responses of "Lucius doesn't kill enough" "Greater Daemons aren't as good as Daemon Princes" "Icon of Slaanesh and Nurgle are overpriced" "Havocs suck" but if you listened to that you'd probably end up with the same list as every other Chaos player and that wouldn't really be very exciting. Go for it.

Iv used flamer havocs befor and thay work well and lucius is a nother high power flamer.
Also the LR is for the posessed and for there stat line for 100pts summond greater deamons work well people just don't give them a try to find out how good thay realy are.

I like it

Whats the same old with Chaos?
There an old codex, so if you want the most competitive list of course the lists are going to be similar, but there is plenty of variation if you look at the Chaos lists on here, and blogs on here as well.

As for this list, even as something 'different' its not 'that' different to a standard Rhino rush you can do with any Marine army. Other than you only have 4 Melta guns, a few melta bombs a Greater Daemon and LR to take out tanks. Which may be enough, but melta bombs aren't overly reliable I don't think. Land Raider will be the focus of all high strength anti-tank first couple of turns so will probably suffer damage (even if its only can't shoot).
MON seems pointless on Possessed, you might as well go MOK or MOS to make them better in combat.

Maybe try and get combi-meltas on the Rhinos, by dropping a couple of Havocs and their Rhino extra armour or something.
Don't expect to win with this list against any decent opponent/list, but it has the potential to be able to do damage.

p.s
Try and improve your spelling a little, i'm not perfect but spelling Rhino wrong, and writing 'sumthing' just seems lazy more than anything else.
And also, Possessed aren't that good. They have a use, but they are too expensive. Bezerkers do just as good a job, can take a power weapon, are 5 points cheaper and a troop choice.

rodgers37 wrote:Whats the same old with Chaos?
There an old codex, so if you want the most competitive list of course the lists are going to be similar, but there is plenty of variation if you look at the Chaos lists on here, and blogs on here as well.

As for this list, even as something 'different' its not 'that' different to a standard Rhino rush you can do with any Marine army. Other than you only have 4 Melta guns, a few melta bombs a Greater Daemon and LR to take out tanks. Which may be enough, but melta bombs aren't overly reliable I don't think. Land Raider will be the focus of all high strength anti-tank first couple of turns so will probably suffer damage (even if its only can't shoot).
MON seems pointless on Possessed, you might as well go MOK or MOS to make them better in combat.

Maybe try and get combi-meltas on the Rhinos, by dropping a couple of Havocs and their Rhino extra armour or something.
Don't expect to win with this list against any decent opponent/list, but it has the potential to be able to do damage.

p.s
Try and improve your spelling a little, i'm not perfect but spelling Rhino wrong, and writing 'sumthing' just seems lazy more than anything else.
And also, Possessed aren't that good. They have a use, but they are too expensive. Bezerkers do just as good a job, can take a power weapon, are 5 points cheaper and a troop choice.

You don't get the point of the list the people i play with play VERY difernt to what you are used to when i use common lists thay get beten because thats what people are used to and know how to beat it.
So being difernt throws them off and gives me the advantage.
With my spelling deal with it i used to be literate so i hade difficulty reading. At least you know what i am saying. I am sic of people baging on my spelling because i can't spell well.

I can't spell well either, believe me.
If you use Safari internet browser it has a spellchecker built in. On firefox you used to be able to download one, it will seriously help as some people just ignore posts with poor spelling. If I didn't have a spell checker half of my posts would be littered with mistakes.

Have you got an example of what kind of list you play against?
You seem to love flamers, and while I like having a couple it would just be pointless taking them in my general list, there is a couple of Nid armies I might face with lots of Stealers in one, and Gaunts in the other so would be worthwhile then. But I don't face hordes of Orks often/ever, or lots of Guardsmen, or Scouts etc the things flamers kill best...

smeg wrote:Also the LR is for the posessed

Is it possessed or Extra armor? if you have both like your list combined with your reply suggests it would be a waste of points, you should use one or the other based on preference


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smeg wrote: i used to be literate so i hade difficulty reading.

That made me lulz a lot.

smeg wrote:With my spelling deal with it i used to be literate so i hade difficulty reading

That'd be illiterate

smeg wrote:. At least you know what i am saying. I am sic of people baging on my spelling because i can't spell well.

Yeah, we know what you're saying, but it's like watching bad acting, lousy foot-ball, or listening to bad singing or music. We clap and cheer when those less fortunate of brain, folks with MR, Downs Syndrone and such give it their all and try hard, even if not quite succeeding. If you've got a full-function brain and you're not giving it your all, then be prepared to be criticized for it and don't whine, get better at it!

So, with my 'teacher' hat on :
The word 'had' does not have an 'e', so you'll save time buy skipping it. You're writing a word that sounds like paid, suade (like Elvis Presley's Blue Suade Shoes) or layed.

And as rodgers37 pointed out, Safari has spellchecker built in, or you could use a word program and then a quick cut&paste.

Ok this is bull s you are just making fun on my bad spelling. I have come a long way from how i used to be but im still not the best no one is. I do find people that can't think of smart a things to say just rip on my bad spelling but i thourt people on dakka would be smarter than that.


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Killadoza wrote:

smeg wrote:Also the LR is for the posessed

Is it possessed or Extra armor? if you have both like your list combined with your reply suggests it would be a waste of points, you should use one or the other based on preference


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smeg wrote: i used to be literate so i hade difficulty reading.

That made me lulz a lot.

1st read the army list and the LR dose have extra armour so look at the main topic 1st

2nd your just being an a hole

Guys, can we please remember Rule #1 and be polite?

smeg - Rule #1 does say "Please remember that posting and reading online is a visual format and as such the spelling, grammar and look of your posts is the only way others understand what you are saying. Therefore, in order to be polite, all users are expected to make an effort to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation and should refrain from using internet shorthand or other distracting methods of writing..." and by joining up, you agreed to that, so if you could invest some time in finding a spell checker before posting it'd do a world of good.

Also, the using the 'censored' emoticon does not make everything alright, the tone of a post is still very much evident in the way it's written.

Everyone else - Remebering Rule #2 might not go amiss, this is a thread about a CSM army, not English lessons. If you feel something needs to be taken higher, then just report the offending post(s).

Right, on-topic:

The army itself doesn't look great. I would personally put Lucius with the Possessed (i'm assuming they're in the raider) by dropping one of them and using the points to make him a champion, there's nothing worse than a GD popping up in the middle of your lines. Also, would MoN really benefit them all that much? Or would MoK make better use of their S5 by giving them more attacks?

Why so many Havocs and why MoS? They're no better in combat than your regular joe CSM, and chosen or smaller units of havocs are better delivery boys for flamers than large squads. There's also no point in having melta bombs if you've got flamers. You won't be aiming for killing tanks, so it's a bit of a contradictory load-out, as well as not being a great choice anyway; a powerfist is more beneficial.

Extra armour and a dozer blade aren't really awesome. 15pts To turn stunned into shaken generally isn't worth it, and a dozer blade is never worth it unless you're planning on often moving 6" or less into terrain.

Your other CSM are fine bar melta bombs on the champions and the random IoS on the flamer unit.

The melta bombs are if a dreadnought would charge in gives them sum better chance for beting it or if thay come across a tank or sumthing for 5pts it makes the unit not usless agenst tanks and dreadnoughts.
Mark of nurgle on the posessed are to make them harder to kill but i have considerd mark of khorne.
With that many havocs with mark of slaanesh well lucius will be joining them so thay drop in flame stuff then charge with faster speed in combat and the icon on the unit and extra armour dozer blade it was points left over.
Using the havocs for combat im not puting my main troops in the combat so thay can concentrat on objetivs.

But saying all thay i mite make a few changes.

Drop the slaanesh icons from the havocs and csm. Make the havocs 5 man unit. Make the posessed 9 strong so lucius can join and give them MOK insted.

So that will leave me with 166 points free so i can go a defiler terminators or a nother unit of havocs with flamers(if i do that i will make all the troops with melta guns)

smeg wrote:Ok this is bull s you are just making fun on my bad spelling. I have come a long way from how i used to be but im still not the best no one is. I do find people that can't think of smart a things to say just rip on my bad spelling but i thourt people on dakka would be smarter than that.

The wink, actually is because I *am* a teacher. I teach grammar, reading, math, writing, etc. For more than a decade now, and I'm not making fun of your spelling, just your lack of trying.

"No one is [the best]" at spelling? Oh, I think there's a few thousand high school and college professors through out the world that'd disagree.

If you do, in fact, suffer from dyslexia or another thing that whacks (Safari pointed out that I misspelled "wacks" but I paid attention to the little red underline and fixed it) out your spelling then the word processing program can at least cure your posts and I'm not making fun of that in the least, just your indignation about it.

As Avatar720 pointed out, using correct grammar and punctuation is a rule here on dakka and seriously, earns you a large amount of respect, like dressing in a tux for a formal occasion.

As for your list, I've nothing more to add that others have already said. A bit of the same ol' Muhreens in rhinos. Looks playable.

smeg, I will do my best to leave you and your posts on dakka alone.

Ciao!

Avatar 720 wrote:Guys, can we please remember Rule #1 and be polite?

smeg - Rule #1 does say "Please remember that posting and reading online is a visual format and as such the spelling, grammar and look of your posts is the only way others understand what you are saying. Therefore, in order to be polite, all users are expected to make an effort to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation and should refrain from using internet shorthand or other distracting methods of writing..." and by joining up, you agreed to that, so if you could invest some time in finding a spell checker before posting it'd do a world of good.

Also, the using the 'censored' emoticon does not make everything alright, the tone of a post is still very much evident in the way it's written.

Everyone else - Remebering Rule #2 might not go amiss, this is a thread about a CSM army, not English lessons. If you feel something needs to be taken higher, then just report the offending post(s).
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Yes, pretty much.

Thanks!