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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 17:21:58
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Rampaging Khorne Dreadnought
Wollongong, Australia
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I would like a good close combat unit to go with Huron Blackheart. Which is better Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen with MoK and all special weapons CC options and why? I am new to Chaos and I have no idea what to pick.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 17:24:57
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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Chaos Chosen are merely Chaos Marines with more shooty options and the abilty to infiltrate.
So if your going to assault, Khorne Berserkers are the better choice.
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Thanrial wrote:Your not going to wake up, pick up the paper (or search the news) and see a headline:
"40K PLAYER SHOOTS 100 PEOPLE SHOUTING "DAKKA"" .
infinite_array wrote:junk wrote:infinite_array wrote:There's absolutely no way this thread won't descend into Monty Python jokes until being locked. Ni!
HELP! HELP! The OP is being repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 19:25:34
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Tilter at Windmills
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As Vendetta said.
Chosen are not a particularly good HtH unit. They only have 1A base, WS4, no special assault rules other than the ability to take multiple pricey HtH upgrades on 1A models (and/or pay a bunch of extra points for an Icon, as you've noted). Chosen are great for taking up to 5 special weapons and shooting the crud out of things.
Berserkers have 2A base, 3A base on the Champion, WS5 and Furious Assault. There's no contest there as assault units go. Mathematically, the extra attack and the WS5 makes the single powerfist on the champ twice as effective as a fist on a normal veteran sergeant, and being S9 on the charge makes it better against vehicles too. On the charge that one Fist is better than TWO fists on Chosen against most targets (WS4 ones), since it gets the same number of attacks and hits more easily. When not charging it's better than THREE fists on Chosen, for the same reason.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 19:44:24
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 19:46:12
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Agile Revenant Titan
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Khorne Berzerkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 21:12:46
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Well said Mannahnin,
It is too true, Berzerkers are the best CC Chaos Unit, everyone runs them cause they work. Add a rhino, a PF, and an IC and that is the end of that....
Chosen are cool for infiltrating for an ambush, flank, or to hold objectives. But they are more a shooter role.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/26 21:22:17
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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*cough* Possessed w/ daemonkin PW! Come on good rolls!
Seriously though, zerkers are the way to go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 03:14:54
Subject: Re:Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You want to stay out of CC with the chosen and melt stuff down.
Huron is best kept assaulting.
So, take the zerkers. Blood for the Blood God!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 05:57:21
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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Adrian Fue Fue wrote:Well said Mannahnin,
It is too true, Berzerkers are the best CC Chaos Unit, everyone runs them cause they work. Add a rhino, a PF, and an IC and that is the end of that....
Chosen are cool for infiltrating for an ambush, flank, or to hold objectives. But they are more a shooter role.
Chosen can't hold objectives, they are an elite choice.
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Thanrial wrote:Your not going to wake up, pick up the paper (or search the news) and see a headline:
"40K PLAYER SHOOTS 100 PEOPLE SHOUTING "DAKKA"" .
infinite_array wrote:junk wrote:infinite_array wrote:There's absolutely no way this thread won't descend into Monty Python jokes until being locked. Ni!
HELP! HELP! The OP is being repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 05:58:31
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Frightening Flamer of Tzeentch
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He probably means contesting...not capturing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/27 17:56:16
Subject: Khorne Beserkers or Chaos Chosen?
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Yeah, I meant Contesting, but this is a forum, my bad.
To some up the Forum:
Zerkers are the best CC Chaos Unit, and Chosen make a good shooter force.
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