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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 15:07:32
Subject: Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Could an army containing the Stormlord an Obyron roll for a unit with blood swarm scarabs, then attach Obyron to a unit of flayed ones and use his Ghostwalk Mantle to be removed from the board and not drift if landing within 6" of the target of blood swarm scarabs?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 15:51:20
Subject: Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Sneaky Lictor
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NecronLord3 wrote:Could an army containing the Stormlord an Obyron roll for a unit with blood swarm scarabs, then attach Obyron to a unit of flayed ones and use his Ghostwalk Mantle to be removed from the board and not drift if landing within 6" of the target of blood swarm scarabs?
Yes. Obyron's mantle causes him (and the unit he joins) to be "removed from the tabletop and placed anywhere together using the rules for Deep Strike". Looks me that you are satisfying the requirements for the Bloodswarm Scarabs which only care if the Flayed Ones are entering play via Deep Strike. Where the Deep Strike is originating from is irrelevant.
-Yad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 17:08:12
Subject: Re:Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Gimlet-Eyed Inquisitorial Acolyte
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Sadly, you still cannot assault after DS and either you get assaulted or take full barrage at point blank range if what you DS to has rapid fire :/
Hope 6th Ed will allow Assault after DS, that would make Flayed Ones usable and fun unit to have.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 17:24:05
Subject: Re:Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Fixture of Dakka
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Doesn't Imotekh's rule say "a unit of Flayed Ones" not "a unit with at least one Flayed One". In order for them not to scatter, it would have to say something like the latter and not the former.
A unit consisting of several Flayed Ones and Obyron is not a unit of Flayed Ones.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
Freelance Ontologist
When people ask, "What's the point in understanding everything?" they've just disqualified themselves from using questions and should disappear in a puff of paradox. But they don't understand and just continue existing, which are also their only two strategies for life. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 19:50:33
Subject: Re:Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Sneaky Lictor
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DarknessEternal wrote:Doesn't Imotekh's rule say "a unit of Flayed Ones" not "a unit with at least one Flayed One". In order for them not to scatter, it would have to say something like the latter and not the former.
A unit consisting of several Flayed Ones and Obyron is not a unit of Flayed Ones.
Hmm, good point. Looking back at the rule it looks like only a model called a Flayed One can benefit from this rule.
-Yad
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/28 23:59:17
Subject: Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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but better you could add two lords from courts to the unit and let them deepstrike that way with them much better than obyron:
Necron lord, scythe, orb, scarabs
Necron lord, scythe, scarabs
8 to 10 Flayed ones
He really won't like them to appear in his backyard...
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/29 00:00:00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/29 00:18:14
Subject: Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Court members can't lead Flayed Ones. Automatically Appended Next Post: Believe me I had an awesome conversion in mind if they could.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/11/29 00:18:42
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/11/29 01:05:18
Subject: Obyron w/ Flayed Ones + blood swarm nano scarabs
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Independent characters attached to a unit are treated as a member of the unit. In the case of flayed ones, the IC plus flayed ones count as a unit of flayed ones, NOT a unit of flayed ones and attached IC.
This is also why you can Deathwing assault with Belial attached. That is also a deepstrike special rule that works for particular squads, "Deathwing Terminators," so was the quickest example I could find to illustrate my point.
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