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Let me know what you guys think.


CCS- 4xPG, PP, Chimera ML/HF
CCS- 3xMG (ride in Vendetta 1)

PSB-8xSanctioned Psykers, 1xOverseer, Chimera ML/HB
PSB-8xSanctioned Psykers, 1xOverseer, Chimera ML/HB

Veteran Squad- 3xMG, Shotguns, Chimera ML/HF
Veteran Squad- 3xMG, Shotguns, Chimera ML/HF
Veteran Squad- 3xPG, Chimera ML/HF
PCS- 3xMG (ride in Vendetta 2)
Blob Squad- 4xPIS, 1xCommissar, 5xPW, 4xMG

Vendetta
Vendetta

2x Hydra
Manticore

Classik Mech/vet list not much to tell here.

The only thing i could suggest would be to replace maybe the
2nd psycker squad with something else.
But it's not bad as it is.
Personaly i always try to find points for a Vanquisher to deal with AV14 enemy tanks.

You have 3 different BS4 melta squads and the CCS can order BID on itself. I think your set up for melta fine.

With that in mind I would swap the PCS BS3 meltas to 4 flamers and the PIS meltas to 3 autocannons and 4 grenade launchers for even more crowd control and transports.

You have Chimera mounted heavy flamers and the manticore but sometimes one flamer template on the target isnt enough.

I find 4 flamers (dropped of by Vendetta/Valk) will do better than 3 melta against devastators/long fangs in cover as well.

I'd think a 30-man unit is enough (in the infantry platoon) 40 is quite unwieldy. Why not cut one squad and take a 3rd hydra?

I see some flaws, but it is more because I am not sure of the roles of the units in your list. What is your power blob doing? If it is defending a home objective or arty, no ACs? No melta bombs? Are your PBS's sitting back? If they are attacking, they should have hull heavy flamers. I also come up with 1990pts, giving you 10 exta points.

For 2k points, your super light on long range fire power, specially against AV 12+. Don't get me wrong, what you have is effective, but your limited to two vehicles. I am personally not sold on having a big scatterable artillery when the goal of most of your list is to get within 6" to 12" of the enemy. You have to be very careful of what you shoot at and your foe may not give you a choice ( like Green Tide or other assault lists). The lack of any AV 12+ means your opponent's heavier long range AT weapons can be focused on your Chimeras, Vendettas, ect, whatever really concerns them.

As long as you understand your list's flaws, you should be fine.

Made a couple of changes too the list. While considering what some people replied too here, I believe the role of my blob is different that what I had it geared out for. Seeing as I do not have anything to sit home and camp my objective, I changed the configuration of the blob squad and dropped a PSB. Now I have 110 points left over and am wondering what you would spend them on.

CCS- 4xPG, PP, Chimera ML/HF
CCS- 3xMG (ride in Vendetta 1)

PSB-8xSanctioned Psykers, 1xOverseer, Chimera ML/HB

Veteran Squad- 3xMG, Shotguns, Chimera ML/HF
Veteran Squad- 3xMG, Shotguns, Chimera ML/HF
Veteran Squad- 3xPG, Chimera ML/HF
PCS- 3xMG (ride in Vendetta 2)
Blob Squad- 3xPIS, 1xCommissar, 3xGL, 3xAutocannons

Vendetta
Vendetta

2x Hydra
Manticore


Automatically Appended Next Post:
One option is to add another Platoon Infantry Squad, with GL, and AC, aswell as another Commissar. That comes out to 100 points, leaving me 10 more for an AC in the Plasma Vet Squad?

What do you guys think?

Grix wrote:Made a couple of changes too the list. While considering what some people replied too here, I believe the role of my blob is different that what I had it geared out for. Seeing as I do not have anything to sit home and camp my objective, I changed the configuration of the blob squad and dropped a PSB. Now I have 110 points left over and am wondering what you would spend them on.

CCS- 4xPG, PP, Chimera ML/HF
CCS- 3xMG (ride in Vendetta 1)

PSB-8xSanctioned Psykers, 1xOverseer, Chimera ML/HB

Veteran Squad- 3xMG, Shotguns, Chimera ML/HF
Veteran Squad- 3xMG, Shotguns, Chimera ML/HF
Veteran Squad- 3xPG, Chimera ML/HF
PCS- 3xMG (ride in Vendetta 2)
Blob Squad- 3xPIS, 1xCommissar, 3xGL, 3xAutocannons

Vendetta
Vendetta

2x Hydra
Manticore


Automatically Appended Next Post:
One option is to add another Platoon Infantry Squad, with GL, and AC, aswell as another Commissar. That comes out to 100 points, leaving me 10 more for an AC in the Plasma Vet Squad?

What do you guys think?

2 more Chimera? leaves your Vendettas free to do other things.

Updated*

Changes- Gave the PCS 4x Flamers and a Chimera

Still have 65 points left, options are:

1. 1 more Platoon Infantry Squad with a GL and AC
2. Special Weapons Squad with 3xMG
3. Marbo

Out of the three I like options 2 and 3 the best.



---HQ---

Company Command Squad
-CCS
-4xPG
-Chimera ML/HF

Company Command Squad
-CCS
-3xMG


---ELITES---

Psyker Battle Squad
-8xSanctioned Psykers
-1xOverseer
-Chimera ML/HB

---TROOPS---

Platoon Command Squad
-PCS
-4xFL
-Chimera ML/HF

Blob Squad
-3x Platoon INF Squads
-3x GL
-1x Commissar
-3x Autocannons


Veteran Squad
-Veterans
-3x MG
-Shotguns
-Chimera ML/HF

Veteran Squad
-Veterans
-3x MG
-Shotguns
-Chimera ML/HF

Veteran Squad
-Veterans
-3x PG
-Chimera ML/HF

---FAST ATTACK---

Vendetta

Vendetta

Hell Hound Squadron
-Hell Hound
-Multi-Melta Hull
-Smoke Launchers

---HEAVY SUPPORT---

Hydra Squadron
-2xHydra Flak Tanks

Manticore

Marbro would be my choice. You just can't argue with a Demo Charge surgical Strike.

I personally like having melta guns in my blobs... here is the reason/mentality. If a Drop pod Dread lands next to your defensive blob to kill your Manticore, your glancing on a 5+ with your ACs and 6 with your GLs, if they hit. Terminators will get a armor save against both (if they hit). Any Marine/Power armor unit will get their armor saves really, and if the Dread is a Ironclad, your really reaching with the ACs and the GLs are just worthless. Melta gun solves vehicle, Terminator, and power armor problems that Plasma can't... and worse comes to worse you move 6" to get the better shot.

I would also that that 2nd CCS and give them a LC and 2x Plasma guns and camp them right next to your blob (or at least within 12"). Now it can give itself an Order and give one to the blob. The Commissar in the Blob jacks up the Ld so Orders will get through easier. The 2 Plasma/LC gives you alittle more anti-Terminator/Power armor/Vehicle defence in your rear as well. You can jack up the unit with Camo Cloaks and also give them a OotF and even a MoO (remember he can be Twin Linked with 'Bring it Down!', him and your LC). If you had more than Marbro coming in from Reserve (at least 3+ units IMO), I would consider a Astropath.

Now, I am sure your wondering where your gonna get the points for this, specially when I mentioned Marbro a second time... your Hellhound. That is 150pts and it really doesn't fit in your list very well besides being a vehicle. It is alone, fast, and needs to get up in thing's faces to work (12"), so it stands out as a target. The only good thing it is doing is saving your Vendettas from some fire.

Even with all the upgrades I mentioned, you should still have plenty of points left over... I would look at a HWS, as even Morters for some anti-infantry might not be a bad option. Just make sure they are within 12" of your camping CCS incase you want to give them Orders.

This is how your list might look...

CCS - 165pts
4x Plasma guns, Chimera ML/HF

CCS - 150pts
LC, 2x Plasma guns, Camo Cloaks, OotF

Marbro - 65pts

PBS - 165pts
+5 Psykers, Chimera ML/HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera ML/HF

Vets - 155pts
3x Melta guns, Chimera ML/HF

Vets - 170pts
3x Plasma guns, Chimera ML/HF

PCS - 105pts
4x Flamers, Chimera ML/HF

PIS - 130pts (blob 1)
Commissar, 2x PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

PIS - 85pts (blob 1)
PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

PIS - 85pts (blob 1)
PW, Melta gun, Melta bomb, AC

Vendetta - 130pts

Vendetta - 130pts

2x Hydras - 150pts

Manticore - 160pts

2000pts

Couldn't afford the HWS, as I wanted to proper kit out your blob. As a side note, this gave me 10pts to play with, so now you have 9 Psykers and a Overseer in your PBS. At 2k points, the OotF became more of a must have, as by then everyone probably has something to outflank/reserve.

Enjoy...