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Upper East Side of the USA

How hard would it be to have one Land Raider model and switch between all three configurations (normal, crusader and redeemer)?

What would be the best way to go about this? Which kit should I buy, the Crusader/Redeemer one? Where would I get the lascannons and how easy would they be to attach?
   
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Buy a normal land raider kit, then buy the Crusader/Redeemer upgrade sprue from GW's website. You should be able to do what you want perfectly between the two.
   
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Upper East Side of the USA

Sekai wrote:Buy a normal land raider kit, then buy the Crusader/Redeemer upgrade sprue from GW's website. You should be able to do what you want perfectly between the two.


I did not know that existed. Wow.

A little under $20. Not bad. I researched it the other way around first, buying the redeemer kit and then finding lascanons - 4 IG-type lascannons can be had on ebay for ~$12 including shipping. Although I imagine they would require some work to convert. With the upgrade sprue, how easy is it to switch back and forth between all options? Do they click in and out, or do I need to use magnets like Orikl suggested?

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this is games workshop we are talking... they don't make models with the idea of weapon swaps they want you two buy three landraiders and glue them together... so yah you are going to need magnets. go to a hobby lobby or michaels craft store they got em cheap.

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Wisbech

The side sponsons might be able to slot in and out, but magnets will help. As for the assault cannon/heavy bolter, if you can build both they slot in and out, just like the razorback


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Upper East Side of the USA

I used magnets before, I was just hopefully that maybe they wouldn't be needed this time! *shakes fist at GW* Any tutorials you guys know about on where to place the magnets for the side sponsons?

Cool that at least the top turret can be swapped without magnets, like the ones on the razorbacks.

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Claremont, ON

I am actually debating the exact thing. The redeemer isn't exactly the tank I want for my assault termies I like the crusader for that. Is it better to have the lascannons or the 6 bolter guns? Is it really worth it to get the lascannons?

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Upper East Side of the USA

skycapt44 wrote:I am actually debating the exact thing. The redeemer isn't exactly the tank I want for my assault termies I like the crusader for that. Is it better to have the lascannons or the 6 bolter guns? Is it really worth it to get the lascannons?


My problem is that I am not 100% settled on a list, but more importantly, plan to use the Raider in various ways in different lists, so I need to have the options of all three, or at least the option between the Crusader and the normal one.

But for you, I'd say it depends on what else is in your list (doesn't it always ). If you have enough anti-tank, maybe go with the crusader. If you don't the regular. If you want more anti-infantry, if you want to move 12 and fire everything, crusader. Probably should ask this is the tactics section to get a lot of answers.
   
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The weapon is mounted onto a swivel, which is tricky to magnetize. Instead, it would be worth magnetizing the entire mount, that is to say the panel that covers the door. You can hop some plasticard on the inside of the door frame to hold the other magnet. On a further note; things to do when building a land-raider the Poda_T way:

-Cut everything off sprue, and clean all the flash. Assemble left and right side of the tank, and devise a satisfactory armor cover over he front section of treads (This is so that you can save some of the treads, eventually, you may collect enough to concoct something of your own later). Do NOT use any of the special doors or interior details on the tank. These are useful bits elsewhere in terrain making and other conversions. If nobody ends up seeing the inside during game, then it doesn't matter.

-Assemble the tank as normal, but DO NOT GLUE THE TOP ARMOR COVER. Dry-fit everything together first to make sure nothing is warped.

- measure out lenghts of plasticard to slot into the door, account for space needed for the doors and weapons mounts and magnets, and assemble so that when the weapon mount sits into the door, with the magnet glued on its back end, the plasticard in the door abuts it, and a magnet sits on its other side. This is so that once the tank-side magnet is set and glued into place, for the next mount, all you have to do, is allow a magnet to sit on the opposite side of the plasticard, apply superglue to the weapon mount where the magnet will be, and put it into the vehicle, and allow the superglue to set. This is done to help make sure that you do not accidentally get the polarity of the magnets wrong. See diagram if I'm not quite clear.

-Lastly, the reason the interior of the tank is left bare is for transportation. you can hop the top off, drop one pair of sponsons into the tank, so his will take up less room in your foam case when transporting.
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The upgrade sprue also includes the assault cannon, which goes for around 10-20 dollars on ebay, which is why it's probably the best option. As for that, I think you might be able to just let the guns rest in the pegs without glue, and that would work for all three.
   
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The lascannon variant works best with shooty armies (take a lascannon raider + termies as a countercharge and fire support unit)

The crusader works best with assaulty armies.

The redeemer is a bad unit.... I've never seen them do very well.
   
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poda_t wrote:The weapon is mounted onto a swivel, which is tricky to magnetize. Instead, it would be worth magnetizing the entire mount, that is to say the panel that covers the door. You can hop some plasticard on the inside of the door frame to hold the other magnet. On a further note; things to do when building a land-raider the Poda_T way:


Sweet tutorial, thank you!
   
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Horst wrote:The lascannon variant works best with shooty armies (take a lascannon raider + termies as a countercharge and fire support unit)

The crusader works best with assaulty armies.

The redeemer is a bad unit.... I've never seen them do very well.


As an ork Player I find the Redeemer scary as hell.

You can't reliably shoot any Land raider so you have to get close to Power klaw it and then the burnination starts...

You can't always ignore it either, especially if it gets near a needed objective or drives down your throat carrying a nasty cc unit w/character inside...

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Redeemer is perfect against a horde Nid army...A friend and me wiped out at least 1 and a half large mobs of gaunts in one shooting phase...
   
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When I built my LR for swap outs I glue the weapon base onto the vehicle, then attached just the top sponson section. I glued a magnet to the underside of the sponson right at the hole where the swivel mount would normally go.

I then attached a second magnet to the top of each weapon, the Lascanons in this case:


And this is what you end up with:



It also maks weapon destroyed hits easy...just remove the weapon.
PS: Forgive the dust on the LR. Its been sitting on the shelf waiting its turn to get repainted.

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