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I posted a copy of this in BoLS, and I was just looking for some advice/critique of my 2k Salamanders list, thanks!!

Librarian HQ (190)
epistolary
terminator/shield

Vulcan He’Stan HQ 190

Assault Terminators ELITE 200
Thunder Hammers x4 --
Lightning Claws x1 --

Scout Squad (5) TROOP 75(100)
sniper x3
missile
teleport homer

Scout Squad (10) TROOP 75 (200)
sniper x2
Sergeant Telion
Missile

Devastator Squad (5) HEAVY (120)
Missile
Missile

Tactical Squad (10) TROOP (195)
Melta
Multi-Melta
Chainsword
Meltabombs
Teleport Homer

Tactical Squad (10) TROOPS (230)
Combi-flamer
flamer
chainsword
teleport homer
Rhino
melta bombs

Sternguard (5) ELITE (170)
plasma pistol
combi-plasmax2
Plasma Cannon x2

Venerable Dread ELITE (210)
TL Lazcannon
missile

Land Speeders (2) FAST (160)
heavy flamer
heavy flamer
Typhoon Missile

Predator HEAVY 60

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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/12/05 02:32:42


 
   
Made in us
Pete Haines





I think you should drop the devastator squad and add a th/ss terminator squad.
   
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Remulus wrote: I think you should drop the devastator squad and add a th/ss terminator squad.


And replace them with what? What do you think would be a better use of their points? just looking for some advice
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut




Drop Vulcan? He is not adding much whilst taking away combat tactics.

Try to make your units work together. Like you have 4 units providing long range fire, they could work together if you went for similar units but instead they all want different uses.
   
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot






Philadelphia

First off, you aren't allowed to post individual point costs. So you can say that your tac squad costs (for instance) a total of 190 points, but you can't say its metlagun costs X, its rhino costs Y, etc.

I honestly don't see any synergy in your list. It just looks like you threw together a bunch of stuff that sounded good and called it a day. Like others have said, vulkan is underutilized. His rules are awesome; use them.

Drop the devastator squad, 2 missile launchers isn't doing to do much for you.

Scouts are really squishy. Because of combat squads, you can count 1 tac squad as 2 scoring units, which is good. Therefore, generally space marines don't need as many troops as other armies. I would drop the 2 scout squads, and use those points for another tactical squad. Also you have teleport homers everywhere, but they really won't be used much. The only thing that can use them is the small termie squad, so you aren't going to get much use out of them. I would have them on one, or two units at the most. But you would probably be fine without them.

I would take the melta bombs off the tacticals. They won't be used much and are just kinda wasting points. Go all (or at least mostly) mech or don't go at all. Your one rhino is just going to get blown sky high first turn, so its not even worth having.

Why are the sternguard all plasma? Actually, why are they plasma at all? For one thing thanks to vulkan, either of the combi weapons would be TL for them, and they wouldn't blow up in their faces. A popular strategy is to give them a bunch of combi-melta, put them in a drop pod, then drop in turn one and blow up the biggest tank you can reach.

Make the ven dread a rifleman (thats 2 TL autocannons). He will demolish anything. 4 twin linked BS5 shots is going to rarely miss, and should kill a transport every turn. Plus it would be cheaper than it is now.

Your land speeders are less than optimized right now. The typhoon is great, but the heavy flamers will never get used. Since the missile launchers are 48", you are going to be using them at range, and will never be close enough for the template. Stick with the heavy bolters, so if you happen to be close enough (which could happen), you can add those into the fire. And break them up into two 1 speeder units. It doesn't cost anything extra, and that way they can shoot at two different targets.

Your pred is all by himself. He doesn't really have any other armor to hang out with, so every lascannon is going to be aiming for him. Try and find the points for the lascannon sponsons, they really synergize well with the autocannon, and help him punk tanks.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/12/05 02:26:46


 
   
Made in us
Pete Haines





Lazy Boy wrote:
Remulus wrote: I think you should drop the devastator squad and add a th/ss terminator squad.


And replace them with what? What do you think would be a better use of their points? just looking for some advice



Dude... I said "Add a th/ss terminator squad clearly you did not read my full comment?
   
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Remulus wrote:
Lazy Boy wrote:
Remulus wrote: I think you should drop the devastator squad and add a th/ss terminator squad.


And replace them with what? What do you think would be a better use of their points? just looking for some advice



Dude... I said "Add a th/ss terminator squad clearly you did not read my full comment?


Whoa my bad, super sorry!!!!!!!!!
   
 
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