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caito cicarius-200
command squad,a storm shields and 2 power weapons, 1 plasma gun (DP)- 150
9 tactical marines 1 missile launcher, 1 plasma gun, sergent(PP) (DP)- 230
9 vanguard vetrans (1 SS) sergent (RB) Melta bombs, jump packs,all with power weapons- 415
9 tactical marines 1 multimelta, 1 plasma gun, sergent(combiMelta) (DP)- 225
5 scouts with sniper rifles, camo cloaks- 90
5 Sternguard vetrans,2 plasma guns, (Dp)- 130
venerable dreadnaught with extra armor assault cannon a heavy flamer and a (DP LB)- 235
land speeder with a multimelta and a heavy bolter- 60 points
captain shrike- 195
2 empty drop pods- 70 points
The two empty pods are to make use of the "droppod assault" special rule, having seven droppods allows me to deep strike four pods full of marine and dreadnaught goodness on turn one. Shrike will go with the Vanguard vetrans, so they can make use of his rule "see but remain unseen" allowing them to infiltrate, the scouts will infiltrate as well, into cover preferably. this list has been refined over severa; games and performs very well, but i woul still love and appreciate any thoughts oppinions suggestions or vauge comments. Thanks and ejoy your wargaming

You can not just buy empty drop pods. Usually people tend to get drop pods for some cannons to have empty pods. Maybe here what you should do is infiltrate a tac. squad using Cato and then a dev. squad with shrike, this will give you two drop pods to drop empty.

Vanguard squad is expensive, you could try the same tactic with a large squad of assault termies.

Which skill will you get Cato to give?

Sternguard have good enough bolters not to need plasma guns, heavy flamers or meltaguns or lascannons or combimeltas might be good.

In general I would be happier with people dropping with meltas and combimeltas. I really do like that you have some ranged weapons as well, thus not relying completely on drop pods to get you in range.

I would like to know how you're able to take 2 special weapons in those Tactical Squads with only having 9 guys in them?
As the squad requires that you have 10 models before you can take any special weapons, including the first one. Are you using the most current codex?

MFletch is right, you can't just buy Drop Pods because you want them. They have to be bought as a transport for a unit, you don't have to put the unit in them but it has to be bought as a unit upgrade.

Vanguard are to expensive for what they give you, Assault Terminators would be a better bang for your buck that can also Deep Strike.

MFletch wrote: Maybe here what you should do is infiltrate a tac. squad using Cato and then a dev. squad with shrike, this will give you two drop pods to drop empty.

very good idea i didnt think about, i usualy use Caito for counter attack but i can just infiltrate one of my tactical marine squads instead. However i have a personal... dislike of termies, i can NEVER role a 2 plus to save my life (or theirs) I also find them prettey clunky, i will cut back on the vanguards upgrades though. thanks for the help


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Fexor wrote:I would like to know how you're able to take 2 special weapons in those Tactical Squads with only having 9 guys in them?
As the squad requires that you have 10 models before you can take any special weapons, including the first one. Are you using the most current codex?

Small missunderrstanding and my fault, I have 9 marines and a sergent, he is listed later in the line due to his unique upgrades, a little odd but that is how i structure my lists, sorry for the confusion.

Fexor wrote:Vanguard are to expensive for what they give you, Assault Terminators would be a better bang for your buck that can also Deep Strike.

I have given the terminators a good shake but as i said above, they have never worked out for me, they always feel... clunky, That and the fact that the turn they teleport in they end up just standing there like idiots, those lighting claws hurt, but only if they can take a turn of getting blasted in the face.


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Hey guys modified the army a bit
caito cicarius-200
command squad,a storm shields and 2 power weapons, 1 plasma gun (DP)- 150
9 tactical marines 1 missile launcher, 1 plasma gun, sergent(PP) (DP)- 230
9 vanguard vetrans sergent (RB SS) Melta bombs, jump packs,7 with power weapons- 385
9 tactical marines 1 multimelta, 1 plasma gun, sergent(combiMelta) (DP)- 225
5 scouts with sniper rifles, camo cloaks- 90
5 Sternguard vetrans,2 multimeltas, a combi flamer and a combi melta (Dp)- 130
venerable dreadnaught with extra armor assault cannon a heavy flamer and a (DP LB)- 235
land speeder with a multimelta and a heavy bolter- 60 points
captain shrike- 195
4 tactical marines 1 sergent with a stormbolter- 100
(infiltrating from caito)