Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Long story short: just got a lenghty text from a friend, in a game (they're taking a dinner break at Denny's after turn 2), where his banshees in a Wave Serpent got reamed buy a SM tac squad.

The LC from the Tac Squad exploded the WS and then the other 9 marines opened up on the surviving 6 or so banshees with RF bolters, killing most/all of them

I know this can't be done (already checked, no combat squads). But my friend has my rulebook (new player) and he's playing a vet (2-3 years) who I know knows better.

Can someone just give me the appropriate page number(s) and I'll text my friend ASAP?

Thanks guys

I don't know the page number, but whatever one talks about all fire being simultaneous. The bolters already fired at the WS before the troops spilled out.

Page 16, last line right hand column.

"... all of the models in the unit fire at the same time."

Got it... and sent it on (feel free to add anything else relevant... probably eating for another 20 minutes).

Side note: Really irks me when vets manipulate newbs, who then learn the rules wrong and become almost more newbish than when they actually asked about rules instead of acting under all they're false assumptions.

It's also specifically addressed in the vehicle rules... at work so no page number, but IIRC it's under the 'Effects of Damage on Passengers' section in the transport rules..

insaniak wrote:It's also specifically addressed in the vehicle rules... at work so no page number, but IIRC it's under the 'Effects of Damage on Passengers' section in the transport rules..

Page 67, exactly where you thought it would be. Last text block above the box about Dedicated Transports.

Not that a veteran should need to be reminded of this - the bolter marines shoot the same target as the missile launcher since they have no special rule to allow a different target. Even if they had, like SW Longfangs, nothing exempts them from declaring their targets before shooting so a transported unit is still an illegal target.

Been there, had that done. Started playing Eldar in early 4th edition. People wanted my skimmers to drift. After that, I started using the rulebook as night time reading: cover to cover.

Homer